Just to put things in perspective, and I really wasn't happy about the upgrade price increase,
but, when all things are considered, this is the the intrinsic value of X3

Tape Emulator - most sell for about $100
QuadCurve w/Flyout - a good EQ sells for at least $100
Addictive Drums - Retails for $179 and usually sells for $149
Nomad Factory Blue Tubes Bundle - $399 retail and usually sells for about $299 and can be had for less when on sale but still...
Bifiliter 2 - Sells for $49 Retail
Melodyne Essential - Retail $99 AND you get a special upgrade price on Editor

Speed Comping - PRICELESS
ARA Integration - PRICELESS
AUDIO TO MIDI Drag and Drop - PRICELESS

So, when you REALLY look at this, this it IS a SUPER TREMENDOUS incredible value for the money....

Just thought I'd throw this out there and put things in perspective...

Which is why I still think they should offer a Producer version that has all those extras stripped out for $50 so people who waited patiently for an X2 patch can have access to the increased stability and design fixes. $100 for a version with Melodyne (to make up for Audiosnap being broken), Quad Curve and maybe the tape sim.
 
 

cclarry - after reading your post I was thinking back on some old I think MasterCard TV commercials that had the final tag line "Priceless".

But seriously, the whole experience of Sonar X3 Producer, working with it on songs and with the Cakewalk team being so communicative on the forum, my satisfaction for the price is batting a 1000. This going to be my most productive year for music for sure, and in many ways the best year, largely due to how great Sonar X3 is.

Beepster
Which is why I still think they should offer a Producer version that has all those extras stripped out for $50 so people who waited patiently for an X2 patch can have access to the increased stability and design fixes. $100 for a version with Melodyne (to make up for Audiosnap being broken), Quad Curve and maybe the tape sim.
 
 

Totally agree. Cake should drop the basic version and make it bare bone X3 Pro Channel.

X3 Producer, isn't it?

tomixornot
 
Totally agree. Cake should drop the basic version and make it bare bone X3 Pro Channel.

 
I could live with this !
 

tomixornot

Beepster
Which is why I still think they should offer a Producer version that has all those extras stripped out for $50 so people who waited patiently for an X2 patch can have access to the increased stability and design fixes. $100 for a version with Melodyne (to make up for Audiosnap being broken), Quad Curve and maybe the tape sim.
 
 

Totally agree. Cake should drop the basic version and make it bare bone X3 Pro Channel.

I was looking at Studio but it's a little too stripped out for the price ($100). I also found out last night that ANY Sonar owner gets that same price. Meaning someone who bought a version of X1 Essentials (and nothing else) can buy it for the exact same cost as I can who sprung for the Production Suite AND the X2 upgrade.
 
Crazy, man.
 
Sorry... still a little salty about that. I'll try to shut up now.

I can't see why anyone would not be ecstatic about what is included in Sonar X3 Producer for the price. It's a terrific value.

I guess there are always folks that want a free lunch.

Considering how much effort and obvious detail goes in to making a great product for us, as a user community we can't expect the bakers to work on improving the product for us for free. True there are always incredibly ridiculous free things out on the InterWeb where someone can make comparisons of what they've found for free versus this minor upgrade cost.

I applaud the Cakewalk team for delivering Sonar X3 Producer at the price point they've offered - with all of the complicated stuff that works so well in it, with such a handy and efficient interface/workflow.

lawajava
I can't see why anyone would not be ecstatic about what is included in Sonar X3 Producer for the price. It's a terrific value.

Not all of us have unlimited disposable income .
X2a gives me all the functionality I'll need for a very long time.  What I'd like is for the bugs to be fixed.
 

lawajava
I can't see why anyone would not be ecstatic about what is included in Sonar X3 Producer for the price. It's a terrific value.

I guess there are always folks that want a free lunch.

Considering how much effort and obvious detail goes in to making a great product for us, as a user community we can't expect the bakers to work on improving the product for us for free. True there are always incredibly ridiculous free things out on the InterWeb where someone can make comparisons of what they've found for free versus this minor upgrade cost.

I applaud the Cakewalk team for delivering Sonar X3 Producer at the price point they've offered - with all of the complicated stuff that works so well in it, with such a handy and efficient interface/workflow.

You have completely ignored the fact that X2 was not maintained. I have offered to PAY for an X2 patch. I have offered to PAY for a stripped out version of X3 to replace that patch.
 
All I wanted was a bit more stability from X2 or a reasonably priced upgrade to access the stability fixes in X3 if that was not possible.
 
I am usually pretty chipper, understanding, and jovial yet on three separate occasions now I have been dressed down by Cakewalk representatives acting like I'm a troll, malcontent, pirate, leech, have a mutant baby arm growing out the side of my head, etc... Nevermind some of the things certain users have said and/or implied about me for pointing out how disappointed I am.
 
Yet I am STILL here and STILL contemplating my options as a Sonar user.
 
I don't want to bail. I like Sonar. I just need the bleeding thing to not be so quirky and weird. Sounds like X3 is almost there and they are finally putting some focus on maintenance again (which is a huge factor in why I bought Sonar in the first place) but $150 is, unfortunately, a steep price to pay for me at the moment and I really don't need all the third party stuff.
 
If they had patched X2 to the point it was just a little more stable I'd have no problem with the $150 upgrade because I'd have a working product to use while I saved up. If the offered a stripped down version for $50 for core stability enhancements I would forego other necessary purchase to snag it and upgrade to the premium package later. If the Studio package were a little more reasonably priced or had just a FEW extra features I'd save to buy it.
 
I'm in a terribly frustrating position here. The reaction from the bakers towards my suggestions and observations have not helped. There have been many reasonable people who have agreed with me or made similar suggestions.
 
If they put out the stripped out $50 PRODUCER upgrade for X2 Producer users I bet they would have a FLOOD of orders from folks like me and probably a bunch of follow up orders a few months down the road to upgrade to the more luxurious package.
 
We just want a working product.