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2013/04/13 03:31:24
bobgassert
Word has it on the forums that Pro Tools 11 will not support RTAS ,,, That would make me jump ship . If I had $5000.00 invested in Waves plugins which to my knowlege is only RTAS ,VST or TDM . Why would you wait around for a few years for Waves to redo all of their stuff to AAX . how many other plugins have a while to go .    I think Pro Tools is shooting their self in the foot. I'm glad I'm not locked in to that program. Sounds like ObamaAvidCare to me.
2013/04/13 03:47:58
Rain
Pro Tools 11 will not support RTAS - that's why for one of the very rare times you'll be able to run 2 different versions of Pro Tools on the same machine, so you can still access RTAS plug-ins if needed.

By simply googling the words Waves + AAX, you can see that Waves has announced AAX support at the beginning of 2013.  
2013/04/13 05:19:59
Freddie H
Rain


Pro Tools 11 will not support RTAS - that's why for one of the very rare times you'll be able to run 2 different versions of Pro Tools on the same machine, so you can still access RTAS plug-ins if needed.

By simply googling the words Waves + AAX, you can see that Waves has announced AAX support at the beginning of 2013.  
 
PLEASE FANBOYS don't take this wrong! The truth and story about AVID and PRO TOOLS and AAX.
 
 
AAX
AAX is great! AAX were needed to make x64. It were easier to build a new format like AAX to make it work in x64 instead try to continue build on RTAS x32 that were programed in to a dead end.
 
 
 
PRO TOOLS
Same with PRO TOOLS. When they build and original program PRO TOOLS in the 90ths they never planed and though about the future. First build were in in 16bit format then later translation fix to code32bit x32bit systems dead end. The PT audio engine were to beginning only in 16-20bit too.
They continue to base that old audio-engine in x32bit code that is the reason why PRO TOOLS has the worst sound of all DAWs today and only I think based on 24bit /40bit internal if I'm not mistaken.
 
 
As many of you maybe remember PRO TOOLS 9 didn't even work or installed on VISTA, WINDOWS 7 x32 or x64 at first.
The problems is still there in PRO TOOLS 10 not talk about all horrible workarounds still need to do with PRO TOOLS 10 x32bit just to make it work on a modern Windows 7 x64bit or Windows 7 x32 system. 
  
So what AVID has need to do is more or less build the PRO TOOLS 11 x64 program from scratch again to make it work in x64bit environment and the result is PRO TOOLS 11 and AAX.
That takes time and that is the reasons that it the last DAW program on the market to support x64. 
As far as I understand the new PRO TOOLS 11 has a new x64bit audio engine too that are based completely on x64bit code. That's great.
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I very glad that AVID and PRO TOOLS 11 has join the x64bit world. As some of you say "it's a standard" (I don't agree on that though); this will make the software Industry has no more reasons to hold back and support any oldx32bit anymore. Finally we can see this old x32bit technology phase out to the history books.
 
 
 
Best Regards
Freddie
2013/04/13 06:25:19
iTiDav
  "Is there one for the pan envelope too?" No. Well, I don't know if it exists ;) I use ALT for cutting the clip and CTRL for the clip-gain. For the rest, I use the automation. A question : well... how to quote a message in this forum ?!
2013/04/13 06:36:25
trimph1
iTiDav


  "Is there one for the pan envelope too?" No. Well, I don't know if it exists ;) I use ALT for cutting the clip and CTRL for the clip-gain. For the rest, I use the automation. A question : well... how to quote a message in this forum ?!

I'm on Chrome here...if you look on the upper right hand side of the post you want to quote you should see something about "Reply To Message" ...when you hover mouse over it it should come up with a list that includes ...quote message" or somesuch. Click that and there you go....
2013/04/13 06:43:01
iTiDav
 Thanks Trimph1. I've seen it but with Firefox, it give me strange things !
2013/04/13 06:47:42
iTiDav
iTiDav


 Thanks Trimph1. I've seen it but with Firefox, it give me strange things !


... But it works perfectly with Internet Explorer
2013/04/13 06:48:59
trimph1
There are issues with FF that is for sure...you my need to look at other browsers and see what works...

The joys of strange forum interactions...
2013/04/13 11:17:34
stevec

how to quote a message in this forum ?!

 
This works with IE but I'm not sure about FF - highlight the text you want to quote, and then click the normal "Reply to message" button.   It's how I've been quoting all along and it's never failed to work.
 
2013/04/13 14:50:45
dan le
From Freddie:
 
"So what AVID has need to do is more or less build the PRO TOOLS 11 x64 program from scratch again to make it work in x64bit environment and the result is PRO TOOLS 11 and AAX."
 
Freddie, so if that is what PT is doing, then what about our Sonar engine? Was it built from scratch too at some point in the past?
 
dan
 
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