I'm not Freddie but yes , it was the first native x64 DAW in the market over 5 years ago. Written from the ground up back then and second generation with the X1/X2 modifications.

Middleman


I'm not Freddie but yes , it was the first native x64 DAW in the market over 5 years ago. Written from the ground up back then and second generation with the X1/X2 modifications.

I may be mistaken but I thought X1/X2 were Sonar taken apart and re-assembled from the ground up and that at its core, it was still the same application. No?

Only Noel Borthwick can answer that question.

well said!

Found this in SoS... I'm sure there is some truth to what he's saying, but I can't help but feel he's somewhat of a Nuendo fanboey. 

Sandy Vee

“To be honest, I‘ve been working more and more with soft synths and in the box in general,” explains Steinberg endorsee Vee (see box overleaf). “Having said that, I do miss faders and buttons, and I’m talking with the guys at SSL about getting an SSL AWS924 for my next studio, which is great because you can control your DAW with it. I use [Steinberg’s] Nuendo 5, and have used Nuendo for many years. Now that I’m in the US, I encounter Pro Tools all the time, so I also have Pro Tools 9. However, I still far prefer working in Nuendo. I write in Nuendo, and will often export tracks as stems to Pro Tools, using AAF, with everything sounding great. We know what colours we want, so it’s not a problem to have less flexibility. After recording in Pro Tools, I will at the end select everything and export it again as an AAF file, and I’ll then import that into a new Nuendo session. In that way, I have the same arrangement in Nuendo as I had in Pro Tools. Everything is flat — ie. without plug-ins — but it’s the way I want it when I begin to arrange and then mix a song.

“I know Pro Tools very well, but for me that system is a bit 2000. It’s slow, particularly when you are using the TDM. I did a test recently with virtual synths. I opened 200 virtual synths in my native Nuendo system, and the demand on my CPU was around six percent. When I tried to do the same thing with Pro Tools, I had run out of CPU when I had opened just eight virtual synths! Pro Tools is cool for tracking — it has hardly any latency and is really easy to use — but my Nuendo rig with two Universal Audio Quad cards simply destroys an HD6 system. In Nuendo, I can have a session with 200 tracks, and have 300 plug-ins open and 30 VSTi virtual instruments, all at the same time, and it’s totally stable. The audio in Nuendo also sounds fantastic. Everyone says that all DAWs sound the same, but that’s simply not true. I’ve done tests comparing the sound of the same session in different DAWs, and Ableton sounded terrible, Logic and Pro Tools were OK, and Nuendo sounded incredible. Editing in Nuendo is also really fast. Pro Tools is just a standard, it was the first to come onto the market and everybody uses it now, almost out of habit. People in the US don’t know about Nuendo, but I’m sure that if they did, many would switch.”

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He wasn't doing too bad until that part where he starts rambling about sound quality... 

David

Bristol_Jonesey

fitzj


I'M learning so many new things from this discussion. Like it "Control and left click lovely lovely."

And me. Never knew that one before

I still don't know that trick! 

Note that you need to have the cursor in the bottom half of a clip for this to work; top half copies with ctrl-click.

Avid is the sleezoid government of pro audio!  if that company is losing money, its because the shareholders are pocketing so much of it. everything associated with ProTools is way, way overpriced. if Avid made a guitar cable, it would cost $500.  they control every aspect of their user base. Avid is now charging $599 to $999 after your initial purchase/investment for basic functionality..  that is fukin-insane.. you can call me a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but im convinced the nonHD software can detect if you know what you are doing, and major show stoppers are written in the code, to make the user consider buying  the hardware. Avid feels they can charge for the privalege of ownership...and it wont stop. am i going to update to PT 11?? .....youbetcha.

aleef


Avid is the sleezoid government of pro audio!  if that company is losing money, its because the shareholders are pocketing so much of it. everything associated with ProTools is way, way overpriced. if Avid made a guitar cable, it would cost $500.  they control every aspect of their user base. Avid is now charging $599 to $999 after your initial purchase/investment for basic functionality..  that is fukin-insane.. you can call me a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but im convinced the nonHD software can detect if you know what you are doing, and major show stoppers are written in the code, to make the user consider buying  the hardware. Avid feels they can charge for the privalege of ownership...and it wont stop. am i going to update to PT 11?? .....youbetcha.

It's pretty cool how Avid can work outside the boundaries of supply & demand. That's a trick we all need to learn. 

That's the advantage of monopolies :-)