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  • Ok - Pro Tools 11 vs Sonar (p.7)
2013/04/12 02:52:31
dan le
Don't forget the Student and Education price.
It is half.
sincerely.
2013/04/12 04:31:37
lapieuvre
Pro Tools was lacking a main feature: Fast Bounce. they fixed that in PT11... 
   
Sonar is lacking a major edit feature: duplicate time 

You can simulate it with: 1.Copy 2.click after the selection 3. Paste 4.click on "Slide over to make room" 5.Click ok 

 So 5 steps in Sonar, 1 step in PT : Ctrl-D... 

 This feature is so useful, I use it all the time in PT and Live. Can't wait to see it in Sonar.


2013/04/12 04:48:59
Jeff Evans
PT has also got clip gain. (so does Studio One) This is the most amazing feature ever. Once you have used this you will never want to do without it. It cuts down on automation a lot and I mean a lot. 

PT is not years behind any DAW as some here think. In regards to clip gain it is a few years ahead in fact. As a teacher I have done three PT Avid courses and I found out a LOT about what PT can do. I almost switched but it is still too expensive. You still need to spend a further $700 to get the Production Tool Kit to make it worthwhile.

2013/04/12 04:50:47
lapieuvre
Sonar has clip gain too
2013/04/12 04:59:30
Jeff Evans
Thanks for that I have been wondering about that. But how do you change it though in Sonar. Is it as easy as just grabbing something and moving it up and down as it is in PT and Studio One. I could not find much about it in the Sonar manual.

OK just checked and yes it can be done but it still takes more steps to do it though. It is faster in PT and Studio One. 
2013/04/12 05:06:16
Rain
Just for the sake of it - Cakewalk products have had clip envelopes since way back in the days of PA when regular automation was actually recorded as MIDI data.

http://www.midi-classics.com/i/p16593i.jpg


2013/04/12 07:38:48
stevec
OK just checked and yes it can be done but it still takes more steps to do it though. It is faster in PT and Studio One.

 
Just Shift+Click on the envelope.  No more steps than that.
2013/04/12 07:50:07
emwhy
1. Select any audio track in X2

2. Change the view from CLIPS to Automation

3. Select Volume

4. hilite a region on the clip

5. Rest you mouse at the top of the clip, you'll see it change shape

6. Pull the volume of the clip up or down in that region....done


2013/04/12 09:58:52
Jeff Evans
6 steps to get there. In PT or Studio One:

1     Move mouse to the little slider (in PT) at the bottom left of the clip or in Studio One to the little square at the top middle of the clip, hold down left mouse button and move up or down. Done. Waveform instantly changes height and clip volume is changed.     

One step   

I wonder how many Sonar users are changing clip gain compared to PT or Studio One users. Not as many I would imagine. Might be too much fiddling to change the volume of a clip. (emwhy approach that is) Except that stevec's approach certainly sounds easier to me. But in PT or Studio One you don't have to involve the clip envelope at all. It remains separate. No need to even show automation. You end up using less automation because it is so easy to break any clip into smaller clips and alter the clip gains of those smaller parts so easily. It saves a lot of time in mixing because you can do a lot by eye, just matching waveforms etc,. 
2013/04/12 10:55:47
Mooch4056



OMG... This horse is dead 
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