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2013/10/21 10:12:01
Beepster
Hello, all. I've decided to start remixing some of my old test projects (Beepster Creep specifically) using the knowledge I've acquired since last fall to kind of review things before taking a jab at some more important projects.
 
However I realize I have never bounced a whole MIDI drum track to audio and I'm not sure how to do it track by track so each kit piece and the room mics have their own audio clips. The MIDI track is routed out so the individual pieces have their own audio track which is how I mixed it the first time but obviously they are all jammed together in the MIDI track. Am I going to have to filter out the MIDI notes one piece at a time or can this be done in a single command?
 
That's about it. Hope the question is clear enough but if not ask and I'll try to clarify.
 
Thanks, guys.
2013/10/21 10:20:24
Bristol_Jonesey
Beep, the best, quickest and easiest way is just freeze your drum vsti,
 
Don't confuse this with bouncing the track, which has a different set of options/parameters and gives a different result.
 
Just freeze the synth. If you system complains or you get dropouts, do a real time freeze.
 
Are you using BFD2? If so, on the BFD interface there's what looks like a little panel at the bottom of the GUI called offline. Click it so it turns red BEFORE you start your freeze.
2013/10/21 10:34:02
Beepster
Hi, Jonesey. Will this create waves/clips of all the parts? This isn't particularly about conserving CPU power but more wanting to work with the drums as if it were recorded material. There are some techniques I want to try out for practice (like extracting MIDI from a kick clip for doubling). Also much of the old material I need to work on uses recorded drums so I need to get used to working on things that way. I'm just gonna do some quick edits to the MIDI file to tighten things up and force myself to work with the results.
 
May seem silly I don't know this already but I just don't recall running across this in any of my studies and I figure it's easier to ask here than spend an afternoon digging through manuals.
2013/10/21 10:34:22
MarioD
Hi Beepster. There is a Cal that will separate notes to individual tracks, that is all the C4s will be in one new track, all the D4s in another new track and so on. Unfortunately I am not at my music computer and I can’t remember the name of that Cal but I think it is something like split notes to track.
 
Good luck.
2013/10/21 10:35:05
Beepster
Oh and I'm still on Eco (sadly).
 
2013/10/21 10:38:20
scook
If you have not already done so, add an audio track for each BFD Eco output (setting the track input to the appropriate BFD output) and set the output selected in BFD Eco to their direct out settings (it's the drop down at the bottom of each slider). Then freeze the synth. No need to split the MIDI track.
2013/10/21 10:41:03
Beepster
MarioD
Hi Beepster. There is a Cal that will separate notes to individual tracks, that is all the C4s will be in one new track, all the D4s in another new track and so on. Unfortunately I am not at my music computer and I can’t remember the name of that Cal but I think it is something like split notes to track.
 
Good luck.




Uh oh... I haven't read up on Cals yet either. Oops. Seems there are still large gaps in my knowledge. Oh well. After this week I'll be able to focus all my attention on the DAW again. Thanks for the tip.
 
I guess if it requires a Calscript I'll probably have to just hide all other notes and bounce one piece at a time. Now I'm not quite sure what will happen with my room mics though because they're aren't any notes to bounce. Hmmm...
2013/10/21 10:42:44
Beepster
scook
If you have not already done so, add an audio track for each BFD Eco output (setting the track input to the appropriate BFD output) and set the output selected in BFD Eco to their direct out settings (it's the drop down at the bottom of each slider). Then freeze the synth. No need to split the MIDI track.




Okay... that's two votes for Freeze. I'm firing up the DAW and will test this way out first. Thanks.
2013/10/21 10:47:35
scook
After adding the audio tracks, configuring BFD Eco for mutli-out and finished the bus routing, select the tracks/buses and save it as a track template. This will save time in your next project when you want to use BFD Eco.
2013/10/21 10:49:36
Danny Danzi
Hi Beeps,
 
I used to do the Freeze thing like Jonesey mentioned but these days when I have to bounce a drum track that uses a synth, this is what I do.
 
Go to "tracks" tab, select "bounce to tracks"
 
Then while in that menu of options, source category "tracks", make sure you have the right things checked in the boxes, click ok and it quickly creates individual wave files of your drums.
 
I feel this works much better than freeze and is faster to process. This of course is not to take away from what Jonesey has mentioned, I just feel that in my personal use, bounce works so much better and faster for me, I don't freeze anything anymore. And....I still have my original files in tact that I can always mute and archive.
 
The other thing you can do if you really want to is split the midi up into individual tracks. Hi-lite the midi, choose process, then look for the arrow and choose "run CAL".
 
Select "split notes to tracks" and the original midi will be stripped out and transferred to individual midi tracks. This is really good for hybriddin multiple drum modules. Like if you wanted the kick drum from Session Drummer, the snare from BFD and the hats from EzDrummer or whatever....you would now have individual midi outputs to send things to the module of your choice.
 
The only down side to it for me is...the stock split notes to track cal file names the tracks by midi note number instead of kick, snare, hats etc. You can edit the CAL file via notepad to make it say kick, snare etc but you'll need to experiment a bit and get your mapping down for that. I have several custom cal files that I've created that work off of my mappings, so when I have to use one, it literally says kick, snare, snare rim, snare edge, tom 1, tom 1 rim and so forth.
 
So one of the above methods may be what you're looking for....but all of them should work and get you where you need to be. :)
 
-Danny
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