scook
After adding the audio tracks, configuring BFD Eco for mutli-out and finished the bus routing, select the tracks/buses and save it as a track template. This will save time in your next project when you want to use BFD Eco.

Thanks, scook. Got that one under control quite a while ago (it's part of Seth's video on MIDI drums that I used to learn about getting multi outs). I usually use some custom project templates I made for various things though usually with drums, bass and guit and associated busses set up and tweaked. Cheers.
 
@Danny... Excellent. That's a little more what I was envisioning. Thanks, man. Hope you've been well.

For splitting up a complete kit midi drum file. CAL works great, it's pretty easy. Use "Split notes to tracks.cal" You can check out CAL in the manual and Scott's Sonar Power books all the way back to Sonar (1) Power. What Dani said about it is spot on.
 
Rocky

Beepster
@Danny... Excellent. That's a little more what I was envisioning. Thanks, man. Hope you've been well.

No problem brother....I'm doing ok, hope you are also. :)
 
-Danny

Hey Beepster - rather than using the old split to tracks CAL, why not take a look at Drum Maps.  This gives the flexibility of multiple tracks since you can mute and solo individual kit pieces, but keeps them all on the same midi track for ease of editing and being able to tell referentially which things are which - not to mention that you will often want to have groups of things together so they make any sense, like all the toms for example - spit to tracks is rather literal, so each note goes to its own track, which gets a little weird when you are trying to look at the bigger picture.
 
I did a tutorial on how to setup and use drum maps for both external or vsti drum instruments.  I think it's worth the few minutes of time investment to learn to do this.  You can check it out on this page: http://blades85.com/music/sonar/88-specific-topics/79-sonar-drum-maps
 
Hope that helps.

Cats are funny creatures. So many ways to skin them.

+1 on Drum maps - it really is the way to go.

Lots of cool ideas to check out here guys and I intend to do so even if just to understand the program better. Danny does seem to have nailed what I'm looking for for the moment.
 
On top of Calscripts being something I need to learn about Drum Maps are another aspect that I've kind of glossed over. Any time I came across entries on the subject it was a little confusing (I'm sure it'll be easier to understand now though) and I haven't actually run into any walls that required them... yet. Honestly I'm not exactly sure what they are supposed to do. I've never had a hard time setting up or using BFD in the PRV and between the note programming feature in BFD and programming my padKontrol manually to the right notes (I have a couple banks saved on the pK for my set ups) I've pretty much got things covered.
 
However I see it brought up all the time so there has to be something I'm missing and it does kind of bug me not knowing about such a commonly used feature.
 
Another one is ACT. I've always managed without it and although I think I do know what it does between MIDI learn or mapping parameters to my controllers as I go I'm not quite sure how it would benefit me. It also seems to mess up a lot for people... but that's no excuse not to learn the feature.
 
All in time which I will hopefully have more of again.
 
Not sure where I'm going with all that. Guess I'm just blathering as usual. Thanks for all the ideas guys and giving my brain a little kick in the pants. I've been looking at this project and realized although everything is edited more or less it's still pretty cluttered up and chaotic (didn't know what the heck I was doing) so I've got a bit of work ahead of me before I can even think about a remix. Should be a heck of a lot better when I'm done though... I hope. lol

A couple points I would add regarding drum maps and CALS and why I no longer use them.
 
It's hard to believe now but there was a time when all my drums in sonar were sound fonts played in livesynth.
Back then if I wanted to render my drums as separate audio tracks to add effects too then CALs were essential and so much quicker.
But with the dawn of VSTi's with multiple outs they became redundant as so the only one I ever use these days is a very useful one called, "UNDUPE" which will go through your midi track and remove any duplicate notes you might have inadvertently created when copy & pasting. Something I used to do a lot of
 
Since I started using BFD2 I stopped using drums maps. They do have their uses but the fact that sonar's prv shows all the drum notes associated with BFD Eco, BFD2 & now BFD3 it's not really needed and creating midi maps in BFD3 now is really very very quick and intuitive and I'd thought BFD2 was pretty good so I'm pretty happy and have no real use for drum maps any more
 
I'd go with Danny's method myself
 
Steve

Hey, Steve. Good to see you. You haven't been around for a while. I appreciate the info. I find there are a lot of things like that that seem to be throwbacks to ways things used to be done that I guess I don't REALLY need to learn but it's hard to know as I muddle through it all. Still I think things like that are worth knowing but not at the expense of moving forward with stuff I need to do NOW so thanks for that.
 
OT but I think you are the man to ask about this. I missed out on upgrading my BFD Eco to BFD2 and since there isn't an upgrade path to 3 (and frankly I can't afford it) for me what I was hoping to do was either...
 
a) Maybe... perchance... possibly get a BFD2 upgrade directly through FXpansion. Unlikely I know but if there is even a remote possibility they'd be willing to sell to a lowly Beep that would be spectacular.
 
b) Buy the boxed upgrade to BFD 2 as I'm sure I could probably find old stock somewhere... perhaps from my usual retailer BUT the problem is on those boxed upgrades they only mention it being for 1.5 users. I can't seem to figure out whether I can upgrade Eco using one of those boxes. Do you know?
 
Otherwise I'll have to hunt down a boxed full version of 2 which would probably be fairly easy but more expensive. Just wondering if you could give me some pointers on this. PM if need be as I'm sure FXpansion would rather folks just go straight to 3 but in my case it's just not financially feasible any time soon.
 
Hope you've been well. Cheers.

Hi Beepster
There's so much to learn with computer music production I try and keep it to a, "need to know" basis but obviously there are methods you might not be aware of that are much quicker and easier than the ones you'd adopted.
As I said, sonar's prv automatically displays all the drum notes for all fxpansions drums which is really useful and it also updates when you add or remove new kit pieces, I prefer to have my kit pieces in a certain order and mapping them in BFD2 & 3 (and Eco) is a lot quicker than creating drum maps but I must say I prefer to look of drum maps and the fact that I can edit the names when they're too long but I can get by without them. One of BFD3's new midi mapping features I really like is the ability to control/select each articulation and then drag those artics on to the keyboard and it adds them in the order you clicked them. Really useful when mapping hi-hats with 13 articulations.
 
I hate to be the harbinger of doom but I'm quite sure you won't get an upgrade to BFD2 from fxpansion as they are no longer selling BFD2 on their site but I guess there's no harm in contacting sales to see if they still have any boxed upgrade versions, however I just did a google search and found people selling BFD2 Upgrade for £84 ($135) which is well worth it and probably cheaper than you would have got through FXpansion anyway. The link I posted is in the UK but they do say it's an upgrade for BFD Eco users too.
 
I know you're saying you can't afford to go straight to BFD3 but I would have advised you to go via BFD2 anyway as you'll be getting 10 very well recorded kits for $135 which is pretty cheap. I'm not a V-drummer but I'm sure I read that you are, or did I ?
Anyway, a lot of improvements have been made for V-drummers and I read some very positive posts from very happy users.
The cost of getting to BFD3 via a BFD2 upgrade may well be about the same as getting BFD3 direct with no upgrade but the difference is you get the 10 extra kits from BFD2.
 
Christmas is coming so I'd suggest treating your self and breaking the bank for the BFD2 upgrade and then you can think about BFD3 further down the line. Did you try the BFD2 demo when it was available ? There will be a BFD3 demo available within the next week or so. It's very different from BFD2 and in some ways is more like Eco in the way it's laid out which should please you
 
 
Here's a list of FXpansion Dealers from around the world, I'd suggest contacting your nearest one and using all your powers of charm and persuasion but I don't wont to get your hopes up
 
 
Steve