CJaysMusic
Ill ask him when i see him

Considering Op is looking for a MIDI based solution I'm not sure if Mr Harris could help much... aside from perhaps creating his own custom patch/plug that is.
 
Which would be pretty darned awesome actually.
 
I met him briefly once outside a club with Nicko years ago. Unfortunately my drunken bandmate acted like drooling fan fool and made them kind of roll their eyes at us.
 
*sigh*

Beep.
 
I've got the synth & the patch and I reckon you should be able to use this, after some processing.
 
There does seem to some sort of round robin going on with the program becasue I programmed a very simple riff and ramped the velocity up from 1 to 127 and there were some interesting tonal variations going on which other synths wouldn't do - it just gets louder.
 
Nice patch, I might use that as a placeholder until I get a round to playing my 5 string over it. 
I do this with virtually of our songs..
 
 
With regards the other point about the PC additional modules, I definitely had to purchase a few, and I went the X1 > X1a > X1b > X1c > X1d > X1d Expanded route but it couldn't have been more than about £100 GBP, though I definitely got the Concrete Limiter as for a tenner, so that helped.

Beepster

Atsuko
Who purchased Sonar X1 Producer before the suite was made available, had to buy all the prochannels, Z3TA+2 upgrades, etc. to make it turn into Sonar X1 expanded with all the features of the suite.

Ouch. That's pretty brutal. I'd imagine that probably added at least a couple hundred bucks to your Cake tab. :-/

Kinda takes some of the sting out of that first buy.


 
The X1 Production Suite was a bundle containing X1 Producer Expanded, Z3TA+2 and PC4K Expander/Gate. There was a "First Class Upgrade" promo that offered the bundle as an upgrade. That was what got me to buy into the X series.

KPerry
You only seem to get this effect with Fender basses

Any bass will give you that sound. It just depends on your technique and the aggressiveness with which you play. Just ask my basses.

Bristol_Jonesey
 
 There does seem to some sort of round robin going on with the program becasue I programmed a very simple riff and ramped the velocity up from 1 to 127 and there were some interesting tonal variations going on which other synths wouldn't do - it just gets louder.

I'm not familiar with the term Round Robin in regards to MIDI/synths (although have seen it used on occasion here). The Zeta is really kind of nuts though and I'm tempted to buy some of the tuts to learn how to really mess with it. Although a lot of the patches are just way too out in left field for me when I've tried some of the tamer patches and screwed with the parameters some really cool stuff happened. I find it kind of freaky/cool that somehow it makes all those noises, some of which are very realistic like that bass patch, completely based on raw noise. At least I think that's what it does. AFAIK it doesn't use samples at all like Dim Pro. Whoever programs that stuff is way nerdier than I could hope to be. :-/
 

Bristol_Jonesey
 
 Nice patch, I might use that as a placeholder until I get a round to playing my 5 string over it. 
I do this with virtually of our songs..
 

This is exactly how I use it most of the time. If I'm just roughing out some parts or programming a backing track to practice improv over it's pretty sweet. A lot easier than having to whip out the bass, practice the part I want and then track it/tweak it AND it's a lot simpler to loop or adjust in the PRV and if I'm playing the part on my controller as opposed to programming it with input quantize I can just pull basslines out of my butt and have them tight to the meter.
 
I still need to scour the other synths to see what other bass sounds I can find (like SI and Dim Pro) but finding this one solved a lot of problems for me. Total fluke I found it and it's kind of tucked away in a weird place. Like as you browse through those Zeta bass patches you get all sots of insane stuff then out of nowhere this simple, straight ahead electric bass. It was a little surprising. lol

This is exactly how I use it most of the time. If I'm just roughing out some parts or programming a backing track to practice improv over it's pretty sweet. A lot easier than having to whip out the bass, practice the part I want and then track it/tweak it AND it's a lot simpler to loop or adjust in the PRV and if I'm playing the part on my controller as opposed to programming it with input quantize I can just pull basslines out of my butt and have them tight to the meter.

 
You've just described my exact workflow when it come to laying bass down.
You can tell I'm not a bass player because it all ends up a bit melodic, but I haven't programmed one yet that I was unable to replicate playing it for real. (There were maybe a couple where I've had to jiggle certain phrasing around, making it easier to play)

Beepster
 The Zeta is really kind of nuts though and I'm tempted to buy some of the tuts to learn how to really mess with it.

Start with the free ones
http://blog.cakewalk.com/...digital-sound-factory/

scook
 
Kinda takes some of the sting out of that first buy.
 

Indeed it does. I only see what's coming out now so I had no reference point but when I see guys talk about the X1/Expanded fiasco I think I would have been far more upset if I had bought in the pre Expanded/Suite days.

scook

Beepster
 The Zeta is really kind of nuts though and I'm tempted to buy some of the tuts to learn how to really mess with it.

Start with the free ones
http://blog.cakewalk.com/...digital-sound-factory/

Well geez... I had totally forgot about that one. Hadn't watched it yet. Thanks.
 
I seem to have totally jacked this thread too.
 
Sorry about that. Lots of ideas here to play with for the OP though... if they're still around. lol

scook

Beepster
 The Zeta is really kind of nuts though and I'm tempted to buy some of the tuts to learn how to really mess with it.

Start with the free ones
http://blog.cakewalk.com/...digital-sound-factory/

 
That's a great resource Steve.
 
I too must really start to get under the hood of these synths. 
I've got Simon Cann's book "Cakewalk Synthesizers: from Presets to Power User" here as well.
That will help me unwind in bed!!