• Coffee House
  • what the guitar companies don't want you to know (p.6)
2016/11/17 13:12:04
spacey
John I think it was time. It takes a long time for nitrocellulose to setup just to work. It's curing forever.
It is hazardous and explosive so I wear a respirator when I spray it. If it's in a closed area one needs to have an explosion proof exhaust fan too.
On my guitars with an oil finish I have been spraying nitro on the face of the head because of my nameplate. It's like chrome/metal and trying to cover with oil messes with it.
 
Even though they've gone to quicker finishes one can still get nitro or oil finish ...at least from Fender.
 
But time and hazards were the reasons for alternatives.
 
 
2016/11/18 04:33:15
craigb
What's wrong with a natural neck and Tung oil? 
 
I hate those poly necks where it feels like your hand doesn't want to move...
2016/11/18 08:41:05
spacey
craigb
What's wrong with a natural neck and Tung oil? 
 
I hate those poly necks where it feels like your hand doesn't want to move...




Sorry Craig. Not sure who you're asking nor why you have that question.
Would you quote where somebody said there was something wrong with a natural neck with oil finish?
Or are just asking...if so;
Natural with oil finish is my preference. What's different about it, not wrong, is that with an oil finish on a guitar-neck or body- in time it will probably need attention. One may need to apply more oil and it's easy to get bad results. It also takes time. 
If it's just the back of the neck not so bad but if it's the whole guitar then it's best to disassemble the guitar.
There are conditions so time the guitar is out of service is hard to say. 
 
I'm trying to answer you because that little guy seems to be looking up at my last post.
2016/11/18 12:14:14
craigb
Yeah, just asking.  I would have quoted if someone had said there was something wrong, but it hadn't been mentioned and I was curious if that was because it was a bad choice (though I love how it feels compared to the other coatings).
2016/11/18 20:32:27
BassDaddy
kennywtelejazz
I've seen that video before ....Aye Carrumba ........what a crock 
IMHO, the best part of the video is the first 5 seconds ...
After the luscious scantly clad female eye candy on the couch lumped me in with all the guitar players of the world and called me"one of the B..itches " ...I did what every self respecting guitar player would do ....
I checked to see if I had her phone number which thankfully I didn't have , Then I shut the video off and played my guitar
Life's to short to let some Highly opinionated soft spoken scraggly bearded  u tube Debby Downer standing in front of a white writing board with crappy unreadable writing  EFF  up for me what I have spent my whole life enjoying and playing ...The Guitar ...
 
Kenny


I love it when someone says something smart. (Kenny, not the video guy)
2016/11/18 23:09:07
eph221
Moshkito
Mosvalve
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVmFlzksMCE 




Well, if this is the Kmart or Sears version of a guitar ... I can handle this ... but a Fender? or Gibson?
 
Too many years of loyalty to great players and I doubt they would be stupid enough to do that. Even the Fender stuff made in Mexico, which is lower priced, gets good reviews and I can not say that I have ever heard anyone talk those two down at all!




pedro, unfortunately it's true.  They're that dumb.  But the music market is so ubiquitous and  profitable even the stupid ones can survive.
2016/11/18 23:16:29
eph221
craigb
eph221
Money always makes things complicated.  DOH!




Then why was my life so complicated when I didn't have any??? 




There are plenty of people who aren't like me.  You may be one?  Living simply is the goal.  Money makes it complex.  That isn't to say that one can't lead a simple life and have money.  But having very little makes it easy.  Having alot makes it harder.  There are those who are ruled by money...very selfish people (as any adult will tell you).  
2016/11/19 10:50:18
Moshkito
eph221
... There are those who are ruled by money...very selfish people (as any adult will tell you).  
...



My biggest gripe has always been watching a musician, think that he sounds better because he is playing a 5K Martin, than a $200 dollar bobodud. As if the quality of the song itself and the singer, improves because of the instrument, and that is an illusion ... and though some of us that do studio stuff may disagree, in the end, you and I both can not tell if that is a Stradivarius, or just Jean-Luc Ponty. 
 
It's not the instrument ... it's the person behind it ... and anyone thinking that only his/her instrument does it for them ... I don't know ... I don't see Peter Hammill with 10K guitars, and he does just fine.
 
It can't be the instrument alone!
2016/11/19 11:00:19
eph221
Moshkito
eph221
... There are those who are ruled by money...very selfish people (as any adult will tell you).  
...



My biggest gripe has always been watching a musician, think that he sounds better because he is playing a 5K Martin, than a $200 dollar bobodud. As if the quality of the song itself and the singer, improves because of the instrument, and that is an illusion ... and though some of us that do studio stuff may disagree, in the end, you and I both can not tell if that is a Stradivarius, or just Jean-Luc Ponty. 
 
It's not the instrument ... it's the person behind it ... and anyone thinking that only his/her instrument does it for them ... I don't know ... I don't see Peter Hammill with 10K guitars, and he does just fine.
 
It can't be the instrument alone!




.
2016/11/19 11:20:51
jamesg1213
Moshkito
 
My biggest gripe has always been watching a musician, think that he sounds better because he is playing a 5K Martin, than a $200 dollar bobodud. As if the quality of the song itself and the singer, improves because of the instrument, and that is an illusion ... and though some of us that do studio stuff may disagree, in the end, you and I both can not tell if that is a Stradivarius, or just Jean-Luc Ponty. 
 
It's not the instrument ... it's the person behind it ... and anyone thinking that only his/her instrument does it for them ... I don't know ... I don't see Peter Hammill with 10K guitars, and he does just fine.
 
It can't be the instrument alone!




My 1979 Les Paul Standard sounds considerably better than my 1980 Gibson Sonex. If I'm playing a nicer sounding instrument, I come up with nicer sounding guitar parts.
© 2026 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1

Use My Existing Forum Account

Use My Social Media Account