Spacey,
I interpreted your "nailed it Rain" as agreement to the general support of the OP. Maybe that was a mistake. I liked you mentioning that there are forums where people are gracious. Funny comment on me being relatively new. I have been around forever just don't post tons. Recent political events have pushed me to speak up for behavior that promotes thinking and against the herd which villifies everything. It is almost always more complicated that what is presented in forums.

new=new(er/ish) in CH maybe?

bapu

SteveStrummerUK

bapu
James,
 
Take this opportunity to finally leave FB in the gutter where it belongs.

 Says the man who invented the FSF

But that FSF is the gutter.

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bapu</p> <p>

SteveStrummerUK</p> <p>

bapu</p> <p>James,</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Take this opportunity to finally leave FB in the gutter where it belongs.</p> <p><br />

<br /><br /></p> <p><img src="http://forum.cakewalk.com/upfiles/smiley/s13.gif" alt="" data-smiley="" />&nbsp;Says the man who invented the FSF <img src="http://forum.cakewalk.com/upfiles/smiley/s2.gif" alt="" data-smiley="" /></p> <p><br />

<br />But that FSF is the gutter.<img src="http://forum.cakewalk.com/upfiles/smiley/s4.gif" alt="" data-smiley="" /></p> <p><br />

<br /><br /></p> <p><img src="http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u625/SteveStrummer1962/joke.png" alt="" /></p>

SteveStrummerUK

bapu

SteveStrummerUK

bapu
James,
 
Take this opportunity to finally leave FB in the gutter where it belongs.

 Says the man who invented the FSF

But that FSF is the gutter.

i.e. it takes one to know one

And Straummy has finally lost it completely

sharke
I've noticed that a lot of people have given up the pretense of objective reasoning and have taken to reaching into a grab bag of slogans instead of formulating real arguments. I see this in real life as well as online. Political discussions are getting more and more frustrating if you're the kind of person who enjoys a constructive debate because no matter how much thought you put into an argument, your opponent's eyes will glaze over until it's their turn to speak at which point they'll say something along the lines of "yes granted, but what you're forgetting is...." followed by a bunch of parrot-learned talking points which have absolutely no relevance to what you've just said. 
 
And then you have young people who, on top of this, have been brainwashed into the politics of victimhood. I see this in the comments of trendy sites like Buzzfeed, in which people who don't belong to some politically protected victim group are instantly shouted down and mocked because they're "not authentic enough." It's painfully fashionable to say that you're oppressed, marginalized and alienated even when you're none of those things (and are living one of the most safe, privileged lifestyles in human history). Any attempt to point this out is inmmediately attacked with a shrill cacophony of indignation and how dare you's. 
 
I sometimes wonder if these kids ever stop to think that people in blighted 3rd world countries who lead genuinely oppressed lives of subsistence and terror have occasional access to the internet and might see their comments. What must one think, living a life of oppression and poverty, to see some fashionably adorned rich American kid decked out with all the latest gadgets and slurping on $7 lattes, whining that their life is a living hell because they have the occasional derogatory comment directed at them from time to time. 

+1.  Beautiful.  Just effin beautiful.  Now I want to go post it on Facebook.  

Voda La Void

sharke
I've noticed that a lot of people have given up the pretense of objective reasoning and have taken to reaching into a grab bag of slogans instead of formulating real arguments. I see this in real life as well as online. Political discussions are getting more and more frustrating if you're the kind of person who enjoys a constructive debate because no matter how much thought you put into an argument, your opponent's eyes will glaze over until it's their turn to speak at which point they'll say something along the lines of "yes granted, but what you're forgetting is...." followed by a bunch of parrot-learned talking points which have absolutely no relevance to what you've just said. 
 
And then you have young people who, on top of this, have been brainwashed into the politics of victimhood. I see this in the comments of trendy sites like Buzzfeed, in which people who don't belong to some politically protected victim group are instantly shouted down and mocked because they're "not authentic enough." It's painfully fashionable to say that you're oppressed, marginalized and alienated even when you're none of those things (and are living one of the most safe, privileged lifestyles in human history). Any attempt to point this out is inmmediately attacked with a shrill cacophony of indignation and how dare you's. 
 
I sometimes wonder if these kids ever stop to think that people in blighted 3rd world countries who lead genuinely oppressed lives of subsistence and terror have occasional access to the internet and might see their comments. What must one think, living a life of oppression and poverty, to see some fashionably adorned rich American kid decked out with all the latest gadgets and slurping on $7 lattes, whining that their life is a living hell because they have the occasional derogatory comment directed at them from time to time. 

+1.  Beautiful.  Just effin beautiful.  Now I want to go post it on Facebook.  

I'd post it in the FSF but no one would/could understand it. And so it goes.
 
Worse yet, no one could explain it to me since I don't understand it.

sharke
I've noticed that a lot of people have given up the pretense of objective reasoning and have taken to reaching into a grab bag of slogans instead of formulating real arguments. I see this in real life as well as online. Political discussions are getting more and more frustrating if you're the kind of person who enjoys a constructive debate because no matter how much thought you put into an argument, your opponent's eyes will glaze over until it's their turn to speak at which point they'll say something along the lines of "yes granted, but what you're forgetting is...." followed by a bunch of parrot-learned talking points which have absolutely no relevance to what you've just said. 
 
And then you have young people who, on top of this, have been brainwashed into the politics of victimhood. I see this in the comments of trendy sites like Buzzfeed, in which people who don't belong to some politically protected victim group are instantly shouted down and mocked because they're "not authentic enough." It's painfully fashionable to say that you're oppressed, marginalized and alienated even when you're none of those things (and are living one of the most safe, privileged lifestyles in human history). Any attempt to point this out is inmmediately attacked with a shrill cacophony of indignation and how dare you's. 
 
I sometimes wonder if these kids ever stop to think that people in blighted 3rd world countries who lead genuinely oppressed lives of subsistence and terror have occasional access to the internet and might see their comments. What must one think, living a life of oppression and poverty, to see some fashionably adorned rich American kid decked out with all the latest gadgets and slurping on $7 lattes, whining that their life is a living hell because they have the occasional derogatory comment directed at them from time to time. 

James uses his tongue prettier than a $2 hoar.