I've been on a big "Organization" kick lately, since some of the projects I'm working on are getting into some pretty high track counts.  I'm curious though, is there a reason why we can't put busses inside folders?  Folders help out a LOT on normal tracks, like grouping together 23 drum mics or whatever insane thing you want to group together.  And then if you want to clean up the screen, and make them all disappear once you finish working on drums, so you can focus on something, then with a single click, they all disappear until you decide to bring them back later.  (But you can still hear them of course the entire time).
 
The point is... Right now I have 7 drum busses (Overall Drums, Kick, Snare, Room, Toms, etc...)  Where multiple mics will be grouped together (Snare Top & Bottom, Kick Inside, Outside, Subkick, etc...)  But it would be nice to be able to put them into folders as well, so that I can "hide all Drum busses" with a single click, or "hide all guitar busses" with a single click... But I can't seem to figure out how to create folders down there.  (So I'm ASSUMING it's not possible?)  If it's NOT possible, is there a logical reason this feature has been omitted?
 
P.S.  I just now realized you can "rearrange" busses in the track view... For as long as I've been using Sonar, I've always been stuck with "when you add a new bus, it's stuck wherever you put it..."  So I'm pretty excited about my new found ability to rearrange busses.  But not being able to put them into folders, is sort of disappointing.

As far as I know this is not possible.  I agree it would be a helpful feature.  

Buses are to organize track outputs - such as drums.  Putting every drum track on its own bus kinda negates the purpose of buses as originally designed.  In the analog days the bus was used to have fader control over sections of instruments or stems - like drums, or horns or backing vox.  You could use the bus fader to change the overall volume of each group w/o altering each individual tracks and the relative volume between tracks.  Adding eq/comp and other effects on the bus developed from that facility.  Track sends were usually used for reverb etc., since we didn't used to have an unlimited number of hardware boxes.
 
That is not to say you can't put every track to its own bus, but what you gain over the industry standard insert/send/bus model other than complexity is beyond me.  You might find such ability useful, but most of us wouldn't.  I wouldn't think it would take much to provided that ability, but how many would use it?
 
And yea, you can move buses around - something you can't do on an analog console w/o repatching everything.  You have to do it in the timeline track, however, not the mixer itself.  UNless that is a keybinding trick.
 
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AT
Putting every drum track on its own bus kinda negates the purpose of buses as originally designed. 

I agree, that's not what I meant though... When I said I have a "Snare" bus, I meant, there is a mic on top of the snare, and a mic on the bottom of the snare, and SOMETIMES maybe I'll have a reverb send specifically for the snare, etc... And then I'll pump ALL of those tracks, back into the "Snare" bus, so that I can control the volume of the "Snare" without having to adjust the volume of 3+ individual tracks.
 
Same with the kick, I have a mic on the inside of the kick, a mic on the outside of the kick, a separate Yamaha Subkick, and then sometimes I'll add some other random stuff to that as well (maybe a sample of a paper sack being smacked by a baseball bat, or WHATEVER...)  So I might end up with 5 "kick drum" tracks, that would then all go to my "Kick" Bus, so that I have easy control over the volume of that instrument, as a single track.
 
So I definitely agree with what you're saying.  But I just label them "Kick, Snare, Toms, Room, etc..." to make it easy to know what I'm working with.  I don't actually have a SINGLE track going to any of them though.  (Unless it's being used as a send, then who knows what I'll pump into it).

I would very much like to be able to do this as well. a big +1 from me for this feature request.

Etmos,
 
In the rare occurrence where I might do what you are saying I tend to finally combine those drum buses into a final drums bus. I then organize all my buses in the following way:
 
Master
Vox->Master
Instruments->Master
Drums Master->Instrumenst
Bass Master->Instruments
Guitars Master->Instruments
Keys Master->Instruments
FxMaster->Master
Then I resize my bus pane in TV to only show the above buses for mixing purposes
.... from here on out I'll refer to drums only but the same holds true for guitars, keys etc
Kick  IN->Drums Master
Kick OUT->Drums Master
Kick SUB->Drums Master
SnareTop->Drums Master
SnareBottom->Drums Master
OH-Left->Drums Master
OH-Right->Drums Master
Drums Amb->Drums Master
Drums Verb->Drums Master
Snare Verb->Drums Master
etc....
 
 
Footnote: My workflow does not include using the CV. I'm a dedicated TV kind of guy. Many find that weird especially since I grew up using hardware consoles.
 

Etmos

AT
Putting every drum track on its own bus kinda negates the purpose of buses as originally designed. 

I agree, that's not what I meant though... When I said I have a "Snare" bus, I meant, there is a mic on top of the snare, and a mic on the bottom of the snare, and SOMETIMES maybe I'll have a reverb send specifically for the snare, etc... And then I'll pump ALL of those tracks, back into the "Snare" bus, so that I can control the volume of the "Snare" without having to adjust the volume of 3+ individual tracks.

Exactly. This is how I work as well.  Once I get the right sound from blending a combination of mics by adjusting tracks (e.g., snare top and snare bottom) I often end up mixing with buses (e.g., "snare").  This happens commonly for many instruments: two or mics on a guitar amp, kick in/out, snare top/bottom, bass mic/DI etc.  

AT
 
And yea, you can move buses around - something you can't do on an analog console w/o repatching everything.  You have to do it in the timeline track, however, not the mixer itself.  UNless that is a keybinding trick.
 
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Yes you can move busses around in the console, just use the alt key and click/drag your buss wherever you want.
It's been like that since X1 I believe, maybe even earlier

markyzno
I would very much like to be able to do this as well. a big +1 from me for this feature request.

here is where you make a feature request
 
This forum is not the (formal) place that Cake develops it's product contents.

Bapu,
That's pretty much the same way I organize my stuff.  (Slight variations) but in the end, after having all of the mics for an individual drum, combined into one bus, I'll take all of my busses for the drums, down to one MAIN "Drums" bus... So right there with you on that... I would still like to be able to use folders though, so I can do the mass "hide / unhide" a group of busses, in the same way I would with regular tracks.  Just not really clear on what the logic would be behind allowing you to use folders for tracks, but not busses.  It SEEMS like that feature would just carry over by default (even though it might not be used AS often, it's still useful to some of us.)
 

Bristol_Jonesey
 
Yes you can move busses around in the console, just use the alt key and click/drag your buss wherever you want.
It's been like that since X1 I believe, maybe even earlier

OH MY GOD... This just blew my mind... Thank you very much!  Ha, I can't believe there are so many "hidden-ish" features in Sonar.  I've been with the X-Series ever since the start, and somehow never found this feature, and have been irritated by it for as long as I can remember.  That works amazingly well...
 
Now if you can just tell me the hot key to create a folder to put my busses in, I'll be golden over here, ha...