Always wondered why this happens. Maybe someone can tell me, before this forum dies! Sometimes when I look at volumes that I have put in the Event List, they have repositioned themselves, so that the volume event I originally put in at 98.01.00, has now "moved", such that it now occurs after the first note of that measure, instead of before it, where it belongs. You can't make it be before the note; you have to delete it, and put in a new CC event. It may have to do with having deleted notes, or copying them to that track. Just wondering if anyone else has ever noticed this, and figured out how to make it not happen. Not a big deal, but if there's a fix it would be great to know. I'm one of those who plan to keep using Sonar as long as possible. In my case, 8.5 Studio.

The thing is, I don't think anybody uses the event list for editing. Everything can be done in the PRV. 
The event list is from the most early versions of Cakewalk. It is not even included with Home Studio. 
Other options are drawing a CC10 event in PRV or the audio / instrument track. 

I use it. But then I have an unusal work flow. On the other hand, I never use PRV. Just Event, staff, console and track. It works for me. Guess this will be one that doesn't get answered. No big deal. I'm actually surprised I even got one response.

I actually use Event List for most of my editing as well, and PRV as a supplement for certain things.  Unfortunately I've never experienced shifting volumes, so I can't give any advice.  But at least you know you're not alone as an Event List user.

jyoung60
I actually use Event List for most of my editing as well, and PVR as a supplement for certain things.  Unfortunately I've never experienced shifting volumes, so I can't give any advice.  But at least you know you're not alone as an Event List user.

Thanks, it's nice to be validated, instead of hearing something like "nobody uses that." Makes me fee like I'm nobody.
 
To clarify, it's not that volumes are shifting. It's the actual controller event that gets shifted. It's position in the event list actually changes. It should be ahead of all the notes in the measure, so the volume (or other) change can affect all notes. If it gets shifted to being after the first note, then that note does not get the volume change. It does seem to happen as a result of moving notes around. Maybe I just work in a way that was not expected by the developers, so they didn't allow for this. I may be the only person to have this work flow. It's not a big deal, I don't know why I even bothered to bring it up.

Sorry my comment came across like that,  I was just saying the reason I feel Cakewalk has a pretty iffy event list and therefore seems nobody uses it. . I myself come from 18 years of event list editing on my Atari using Dr T's KCS sequencer. Sonars event list was a huge disapointment to me. It took a long while to get used to the Piano Roll editing but it seems the best place to get things done and now my only use of the event list is to delete controllers from downloaded files.
  
 
 

I, too, frequently use the event list whenever I need to be precise with the placement of events. I suspect a lot of old-school MIDI guys routinely do this. Sometimes it's just more convenient than using the PRV.
 
However, I am accustomed to placing events a tick or two ahead when I need to force the order of execution. Nothing happens simultaneously in software, and there is no such thing as a truly "continuous" controller, so even if several events are placed at exactly the same timestamp, there's no guarantee as to what order they'll actually be processed.
 
Part of it may also be due to quantization of CC and MIDI events, and I would not be surprised if notes take priority over continuous controllers, which can usually be off a little without audible repercussions.
 
There's also the consideration of how much time it takes a synthesizer to respond to a CC event or keyswitch. I guess it's a habit I got into working with outboard synths, but it's only logical that soft synths need some time to process input too. Another reason to position controller events well ahead of the point where you need them to take effect.
 

Can't say that I've ever seen a CC event "move" itself.
But I can confirm that I often use the editor when I want something placed accurately.
Flams for instance, place two snare hits, (snap is on of course) then shift them a bit fore and aft.
Since I have only limited experience with the editor in Reaper, is the SONAR editor not "typical"?
 
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I've only used Sonar and Reaper, their lists are very similar. Reaper is easier on the eyes. Sonar is more conveneient in some ways. But they do the same things.

DeeringAmps
Can't say that I've ever seen a CC event "move" itself.
But I can confirm that I often use the editor when I want something placed accurately.
Flams for instance, place two snare hits, (snap is on of course) then shift them a bit fore and aft.
Since I have only limited experience with the editor in Reaper, is the SONAR editor not "typical"?
 

It may be the relocated notes that are the problem. They may not position themselves correctly in the event list.