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2013/10/16 15:04:54
JM
Sax Halion 5.mp3
 
Sax Halion 5 ARA.mp3
 
Thx... 
 
 
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2013/10/16 16:30:32
swamptooth
not sure what your question is... 
did you bounce the original soft synth output and then run it through melodyne to get a midi file and run that back into halion to get a comparison?
2013/10/16 17:25:57
brundlefly
Yeah, audio-to-MIDI conversion is rough.
 
But, in this particular case,  major improvements can be made with a few clicks:
 
- Select all notes, and change duration to 240.
- Fix the 4-5 misdetected pitches.
- Lengthen the couple of longer notes back to their original duration, and fix the late start times of the ones  they bend into.
- Add the one missing note.
 
- And with a little more time and effort, convert the arpeggiated bends to single notes with pitch bends.
 
Child's play for an experienced PRV composer, which I'm not, and I got the first four fixes done in a few minutes. 
 
 
 
 
2013/10/16 17:54:45
jb101
Perhaps this should be titled "What happens when you don't know how to use a program".
 
I've had some pretty good results just dragging an audio clip onto a MIDI track, with just a couple of changes in the PRV.
 
I find it works better (particularly with polyphonic material) to check the detected notes in Melodyne before converting to MIDI.
 
There seems to be a lot of slagging of Melodyne on here at the moment, mostly by peole who haven't read the manual.  It is an astounding piece of kit.
 
@ OP - Do you actually know what ARA is?
2013/10/16 21:57:34
mudgel
I think some people are treating Melodyne like its a "create a hit button" with no user inpit required
2013/10/16 23:55:21
cliffr
jb101
Perhaps this should be titled "What happens when you don't know how to use a program".
 
I've had some pretty good results just dragging an audio clip onto a MIDI track, with just a couple of changes in the PRV.
 
I find it works better (particularly with polyphonic material) to check the detected notes in Melodyne before converting to MIDI.
 
There seems to be a lot of slagging of Melodyne on here at the moment, mostly by peole who haven't read the manual.  It is an astounding piece of kit.
 
@ OP - Do you actually know what ARA is?


Agree totally, excellent piece of software if you learn how to use it ... which means some effort on your part. It's not like magic, but that seems to be what people want or expect.
 
The big magic button you just push.
 
I find Melodyne totally awesome, but only after putting in a little effort.
 
Cheers - Cliff
 
2013/10/17 02:57:22
Loptec
cliffr
jb101
Perhaps this should be titled "What happens when you don't know how to use a program".
 
I've had some pretty good results just dragging an audio clip onto a MIDI track, with just a couple of changes in the PRV.
 
I find it works better (particularly with polyphonic material) to check the detected notes in Melodyne before converting to MIDI.
 
There seems to be a lot of slagging of Melodyne on here at the moment, mostly by peole who haven't read the manual.  It is an astounding piece of kit.
 
@ OP - Do you actually know what ARA is?


Agree totally, excellent piece of software if you learn how to use it ... which means some effort on your part. It's not like magic, but that seems to be what people want or expect.
 
The big magic button you just push.
 
I find Melodyne totally awesome, but only after putting in a little effort.
 
Cheers - Cliff
 




+1 to both of you
2013/10/17 11:44:43
JM
mudgel
I think some people are treating Melodyne like its a "create a hit button" with no user inpit required

You are wrong. I showed that ARA is a mess.
2013/10/17 12:34:12
swamptooth
What you actually showed was three things.

1 - you do not take the time to fully express your concerns in a concise yet thorough manner.
2 - you do not have an understanding of the software you are attempting to use.
3 - you apparently dont make the effort to troubleshoot your issues before you judge.
Try melodyne and ara with a non-complex baseline tone such as a simple sine wave from z3ta or dimension pro.
Drag the results to midi. Disable all random or lfo generated voicing in halion on the sax patch and compare the result. Add gating to the audio output so you have clean notes to deal with. Then, set a goal that isn't about complaining about something.
Take into account ypu didn't state which version of melodyne you are using or which version of halion or which sax patch you had loaded. You just did a forum drive-by.
2013/10/17 13:11:09
jb101
JM
mudgel
I think some people are treating Melodyne like its a "create a hit button" with no user inpit required

You are wrong. I showed that ARA is a mess.




No, you just showed us that you don't know how to use the software.  Well done, point duly noted.
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