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Hey nobody get my point, I don't want you to get mad about what system you are using to make your music, I only want to know is somebody here (SONAR EXPERTS) know something about Sonar for Mac OSX.

Thanks for your help and remember, the real music it is in your heads, no in your computers, these are only tools.

BC

Erm, no, Sonar experts don't know anything about Sonar for OSX, because there is no such thing.
But soon, Macs will be capable of running Windows, so if you wanted to I suppose you could run Sonar on a Mac then.
There really is no need for this "I want to move to MacOSX" thing, both platforms are equally adept at handling audio, and indeed some of the major players (SADiE, and Pyramix come to mind) only run on Windows, likewise, as you well know, there are several top-flight software solutions that only run on Mac.

Kinda playing Devil's Advocate here, but OSX is actually significantly better at handling audio and midi. It doesn't always come into play, but;
1. CoreAudio supports low latency performance at the native level. Kinda like WDM on Windows which never really took off.
2. CoreAudio is sample accurate at the OS level.
3. Aggregate devices. Nuff said.
4. Unlimited midi devices and better USB port handling.

This thread is initially from 2005

mudgel
This thread is initially from 2005

and it seems a neverending story.

I'm not a Mac person, but following the forum I saw someone (I think it was Craig) mentioning a Mac with bootcamp supposedly being the "better windows laptop" ...
 
Is there any more info I could read about (with hands-on experience)?? Just asking out of curiosity ... to learn and get a glimpse of the greener grass on the other side ;-)

FreeFlyBertl
I'm not a Mac person, but following the forum I saw someone (I think it was Craig) mentioning a Mac with bootcamp supposedly being the "better windows laptop" ...
 
Is there any more info I could read about (with hands-on experience)?? Just asking out of curiosity ... to learn and get a glimpse of the greener grass on the other side ;-)

The ONLY reason Macs are apparently more stable than Windows PCs is because Apple dictates what hardware is inside a Mac,  therefore when they write the OS they know exactly what to expect.
 
In reality, since the introduction of Intel architecture in Macs, there is no difference between any PC or laptop other than the brand of OS being run on it.  A Mac running Windows though bootcamp is no different to any other windows machine.
 
Noel and the other Bakers have stated repeatedly that they have no plans to port Sonar to an Apple OS in the near or distant future.

DonM
Sid:

Sorry you missunderstood my post - I have Pro-Tools and currently don't have a Logic workstation. I was responding to what seemed to be a troll like sentence.

I completed several commercially released CD's in Sonar last year and am currently working on three. I also produced twelve broadcasts for NPR in Sonar last year. It's possible you've not encounted some of my posts.

I kind of see my "why would you use Sonar" comment as if it were coming from Ron K.

I'm not too adept at the smiley icon thing and therefore my irony was probably lost.

BTW there are times were I must use Pro-Tools or Samplitude for due to a Client's needs and inter-studio portability. I'm happier that I can now run M-Powered Pro-Tools on XP which is why my Logic workstation is no longer in operation. I just haven't gotten many calls for Logic oriented projects in a while.

Sonar is what I reach for for every project initially, and each year I teach several hundred students to use Sonar in my Sound Design class at Duquesne University in Pittsburgh.

Too bad you can't delete your post?

-D

Don't feel bad, I got the joke. I have Logic on my Mac. I really use it only for testing, but the feature set is quite SONAR-like in some respects and if I had to use it, I could. I would certainly rather use Logic than Pro Tools.
 
I do know quite a few people who use SONAR with Boot Camp and are very happy with the combination. Once you load SONAR, Windows pretty much disappears until you have to save or load something and navigate the file structure.
 
But frankly, the Mac isn't what it once was. The simplicity of System 9 will never return, and the reaction to Yosemite has been mixed, to say the least. A lot of people think the point of Yosemite was to force people to upgrade to better hardware. I tend to doubt that was encouraged by evil marketing people on purpose, but it's not surprising that a newer operating system would expect more available resources.

Craig,  the post you quoted and replied to was written September 17, 2005.
 
 

FreeFlyBertl
I'm not a Mac person, but following the forum I saw someone (I think it was Craig) mentioning a Mac with bootcamp supposedly being the "better windows laptop" ...

Actually I was quoting what others said to me. I have both Mac and Windows laptops and desktops, so I've never felt the need to run SONAR on my Mac...it works just fine on the HP.

Anderton
 
 But frankly, the Mac isn't what it once was. The simplicity of System 9 will never return, and the reaction to Yosemite has been mixed, to say the least...

 
...yes... definetely true...
as a matter of fact, new Apple's main focus are now childish expensive i-TOYs...
and as somebody else above mentioned, get over "religious convictions"...
things like "OSX is actually significantly better at handling audio and midi" are old wearisome LEGENDS...
Windows PCs, depending on their many machine's configurations, can handle EVERY and ANY task with power that Macs simply can't reach...
Both Windows 7 and 8.1 are capable of handling Audio and MIDI at their best, not the mention the HUGE variety of hardware and software dedicated to music making available...
...thus old myths have no points nowadays...
 
and rest assured, SONAR is the WINDOWS based DAW for excellence (remember the side-by-side 64-bit platform birth and growth, for instance....?) and it shall always be.....
 
OF COURSE, it's all about personal preferences and taste, in the end... and they shall rule.....
 
Edit
P.S:
...and it's true this subject is old and weary...
I keep telling myself not to fall into this sort of threads any longer, yet I do always hook...
This was the last time.... I swear.......
 
...until next...!
 

The things I described are verifiable facts, not legends. I actually really dislike Apple and the only thing I own from them is an iPad (out of necessity for live band stuff).
Audio and midi handling are simply implemented better on the OS level on OSX. That doesn't necessarily mean you'll run into issues on Windows, but it's still true.