I'm just starting to use the software sequencer Kirnu Cream inside of Sonar X2.
 
I'm getting really tangled with the Input echoes on/off/through.   If I have one track running a sequence, then I add another soft synth track and play something, its also changing the notes of the original soft synth track (as all the Input echoes are on) - if I take the input echo of the orignial soft synth track OFF, I can't hear it play back ... 
 
Hum - anyone using this or similar?  What might I be doing wrong?
 
 

I've got the Kirnu Cream demo but not tried using it yet.
 
I think I understand the problem though...what about as well as using Input Echo, use MIDI channels as well to filter which track your playing goes to?  You probably have both tracks currently set to OMNI.  Try setting your keyboard and the MIDI track you want to hear your playing on to the same MIDI channel and change the track that's running the sequence to a different channel.

aha - good point, I am using OMNI on both ... I'll check that when I'm back at my studio and see ... thanks for the tip.

Hmmm, I did get it to work.  But it seems inconsistent.  Sometimes I get no sound at all for no conceivable reason.
 
Then adding a second instance of Cream causes Sonar to crash (tested 3 times).  
 
Frustrating - anyone with any similar experience?

ULTRABRA
Then adding a second instance of Cream causes Sonar to crash (tested 3 times).  

I believe that is to be expected, at this time SONAR can only handle one plug-in instance producing MIDI output.

scook

ULTRABRA
Then adding a second instance of Cream causes Sonar to crash (tested 3 times).  

I believe that is to be expected, at this time SONAR can only handle one plug-in instance producing MIDI output.

this is why i haven't upgraded since x1

I apologize for the slight derail of this thread, but I'm really impressed with what Kirnu Cream can do (just watched a video). I've used Kirnu Arp in the past and have forgotten about it, but this seems like a very useful & creative tool.
 
What are your impressions of Kirnu C.?

it's the most sophisticated arp out there :) there's a bit of a learning curve but it's super flexible, responsive developer, cheap as chips, and so on :) try the demo of course ;)

My impressions of Kirnu Cream are not helped by the fact that a) you can only use one instance at a time in Sonar (why ?????)    and b) its not apparently very stable within Sonar even with one instance
 
Its a pity since it really seemed to be a tool I could use ... hmmm, is there a way around this?

scook

ULTRABRA
Then adding a second instance of Cream causes Sonar to crash (tested 3 times).  

I believe that is to be expected, at this time SONAR can only handle one plug-in instance producing MIDI output.

Fixed in X3b - although I haven't actually tested that out yet.
 
Cheers - Cliff