2013/10/11 11:02:21
konradh
I have Guitar Rig 4 Pro.  I cannot imagine doing an electric guitar part without it.
 
Just curious: would upgrading to version 5 give me significantly more options (more components and presets)?  If so, I will do it.
 
Thanks!
2013/10/11 11:10:03
Beepster
If you mean the GR4 that came with Sonar GR5 obliterates it. I'm not sure if the regular NI release of GR4 has more stuff but even still GR5 is absolutely crammed with amps, effects, cabs, etc and from the promo stuff I looked at before upgrading a lot of it was new/improved over GR4.
 
The Control Room Pro (not the basic Control Room) stuff is invaluable so if that isn't included in the version you have it by itself is worth the upgrade price.
2013/10/11 11:12:35
beltrom
Best source:
http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/guitar/guitar-rig-5-pro/overview/whats-new/
http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/guitar/guitar-rig-5-pro/
 
Personally i would probably not get GR5 by itself - but having it in Komplete 8 I'm totally enjoying it.
2013/10/11 11:12:43
mmorgan
I have GR5 and I use to used to use it alot. A year or so ago I came across Scuffham S-Gear which I really really like. GR5 and S-Gear really are not comparable because GR5 has no much more depth although I find myself using S-Gear more of late (last six months).
 
Recently I came across a video that showed GR5 racked out with a buch of 'Containers'. This made me think I might like to get back to GR5 and see what that was about...basically it looked like each 'container' had macro knobs for whichever components were inside...similar to Effects Chains in Sonar (I think).
 
Not sure what the upgade price for GR5 is..if it's reasonable, and you can afford it, I say why not? I seem to recall that when I did the upgrade my impression was that there was a lot more stuff in 5.
 
Regards,
 
 
 
2013/10/11 11:14:24
Grem
I have 4 and upgraded to 5 and it's different, but still the same. IOW I didn't get all that impressed with the newer version. In fact I use Head Case and THD much more now than GR.

But if you get a chance to get it for a good price ,I'd jump on it. It is worth it for sure.
2013/10/11 11:16:36
Beepster
When I upgraded a little over a year ago from the GR4 Sonar it was $99. If you had the NI release GR4 full version it was $79. This caused some confusion because I thought I did indeed have GR4 "full".
 
I can't remember if they were running a special.
2013/10/11 11:17:24
Grumbleweed_
You can run it in demo mode and try out everything, so try it! You'll also get an favourable upgrade price from GR4.
(I haven't got it yet but it is on my list as I really like it.)

Grum.
2013/10/11 11:21:18
Beepster
Yeah... the demo is full function for a half hour... well aside from the usual stuff like you can't save presets and I think does something weird if you try to record with it. I forget.
2013/10/11 11:43:40
konradh
Wow, thanks for the fantastic and quick answers.
 
To clarify, I had whatever GR came with X1 back in the day, and then I paid to go Pro and I have GR4 Pro.
 
I have managed to create and save some custom sounds I really like for RealStrat and RealLPC (Les Paul) and a few for the Fab Four guitars.  My only disappointment is that 1-a lot of the presets in the classic rock and blues groups sound too much the same and 2-I have not been able to get that clear, singing tube sound that comes from borderline feedback (as opposed to the gritty or fuzzy type distortion).  The way I sort of get #2 is running a guitar sound from Fab Four through a basic amp in GR.
 
I actually still like my Pod 2.0 but it is a pain to go out of the computer and back in again.
 
I will definitely try out the demo of GR5 and if it is $100 bucks or less I will probably buy it this week-end. 
2013/10/11 12:07:11
Beepster
Well I hate to say it but although GR5 is indeed capable of getting much closer to that true tube distortion sound than my experiences with GR4 (Sonar version) it was a real pain to get it to that point. Like lots of trial and error/tweaking/using Scott Garrigus' guide on using amp sims (check out his article on SOS if you have not already). I mostly use TH2 now (upgraded to the full version) because it really does sound a lot more realistic in this regard. They haven't really managed to get sims to the point where they can emulate feedback. I'm not sure why because they can get so much accuracy in other areas of guitar/amp tones.
 
Normally I'd say just use TH2 if that's what you are looking for but people that like GR really like GR and version 5 is a stellar program with tons of options (more than TH2 actually) so I try not to dissuade people from it (it has gotten me in poop before).
 
I personally use it for bass now because I like the GR bass modelling better than TH2s which is limited and not to my tastes but I hope to correct that by getting Overloud MarkII if I can ever afford it. But I can still see plenty of use for GR5 because it has some sounds and capabilities that TH2 doesn't. I just don't see much need to fire it up if I'm trying to get a more traditional amp sound for blues, rock, metal, etc. More novelty setting really.
 
I posted a thread a while back about how I figured an ultra easy set up for an SRV type tone in TH2. I think it can be achieved with TH2 producer. I'll see if I can dig it up.
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