2016/11/11 17:38:08
drewfx1
BobF
drewfx1
Mosvalve
I wonder when this thread will be locked since it's been a respectful discussion.




All I'm saying is if it does, then my next thread will be entirely about flowers, puppies and ice cream.




Why no kittens?  Everybody loves kitten memes




Even Beagle?
2016/11/11 17:40:51
Mosvalve
You guys take threads where no threads have gone before
2016/11/11 18:12:27
outland144k
craigb
Let's take the example from the Dark Ages.  The majority of the people living at the time either believed, or were told to believe, that the world was flat despite multiple ways known thousands of years previously to the contrary.  It would be very easy to assume that anyone who thought it was round could be chastised as a bigot per the definition of the word...
 
The point here is that, in this case, it's actually the majority that were prejudiced and closed-minded, plus there was extreme intolerance and hostility (having a "the Earth is round" view could get you imprisoned, exiled or killed).  The prime backers of the flat Earth idea were the Church (which brings in the religious element) and it definitely caused separation in social groups (albeit without any racial implications that I know of).  In this particular example, the minority opinion turned out to be the correct one. 



Actually, no again. Since Pythagoras (Greek, 6th century B.C.), the idea of a spherical earth grew increasingly widespread. While some individuals in the Roman Catholic Church (most notably apparently St. Augustine, though this is somewhat debated), did repudiate the idea, largely among those who thought the concept through, the idea was accepted. (If you know of a given instance of an individual getting persecuted, please do share it; I can't find one instance. BTW, do not please think me as trying to put you "on the spot", I'd genuinely be interested). In essence, what you've probably been taught regarding Columbus attempting to disprove the flat earth theory is largely fabricated. Columbus and Isabella's cartographers were arguing about the size of the earth in her court, not its shape. Everyone in the room at that time believed the earth to be spherical.
 
My guess is that you are confusing this issue with the spread of heliocentrism. Copernicus, of course, authored this and it was this idea that was embraced and publicized by the devout Roman Catholic Galileo Galiliei. Interestingly, Pope Urban VIII might have defended the ideas of Galileo (Pope Gregory XIII had embraced Copernicus' ideas earlier in 1582), had he not been insulted by the way Galileo posited his theories in his book, Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems. Timing was also against Galileo; his problems began around 1615 and by the time many of his ideas were analyzed, he faced the problem of being charged with ideas that seemed suspiciously supportive of some of the paradigms of the Protestant Reformation. This last is stranger still as Luther (and the other magisterial Reformer John Calvin after him) had apparently little use for the heliocentric idea.

 
"E pur si muove".
 

 
2016/11/11 18:19:05
ampfixer
So the earth is round? You're havin' a laugh aren't you.
2016/11/11 18:21:08
outland144k
drewfx1
BobF
drewfx1
Mosvalve
I wonder when this thread will be locked since it's been a respectful discussion.




All I'm saying is if it does, then my next thread will be entirely about flowers, puppies and ice cream.




Why no kittens?  Everybody loves kitten memes




Even Beagle?




I think you're all being silly. The fact that this thread is still open is proof enough that you did not tread where the other thread went, I would think.
 
Let's all step back and take a deep breath. On "three":
 
One...
 
Two....
2016/11/11 18:23:22
outland144k
ampfixer
So the earth is round? You're havin' a laugh aren't you.




I always have a laugh. It's the only way I remain sane (given the circumstances).
 
Here's a way to have both a round and a flat earth. Pretty nifty, huh?
 

2016/11/11 18:54:03
BobF
outland144k
drewfx1
BobF
drewfx1
Mosvalve
I wonder when this thread will be locked since it's been a respectful discussion.




All I'm saying is if it does, then my next thread will be entirely about flowers, puppies and ice cream.




Why no kittens?  Everybody loves kitten memes




Even Beagle?




I think you're all being silly. The fact that this thread is still open is proof enough that you did not tread where the other thread went, I would think.
 
Let's all step back and take a deep breath. On "three":
 
One...
 
Two....




You're not the boss of me - the unicorn is. 
2016/11/11 18:56:24
outland144k
BobF
outland144k
drewfx1
BobF
drewfx1
Mosvalve
I wonder when this thread will be locked since it's been a respectful discussion.




All I'm saying is if it does, then my next thread will be entirely about flowers, puppies and ice cream.




Why no kittens?  Everybody loves kitten memes




Even Beagle?




I think you're all being silly. The fact that this thread is still open is proof enough that you did not tread where the other thread went, I would think.
 
Let's all step back and take a deep breath. On "three":
 
One...
 
Two....




You're not the boss of me - the unicorn is. 




Good point. 
 
Oh, and BTW...
 
Three.
2016/11/12 05:36:00
mudgel
BobF
drewfx1
Mosvalve
I wonder when this thread will be locked since it's been a respectful discussion.




All I'm saying is if it does, then my next thread will be entirely about flowers, puppies and ice cream.




Why no kittens?  Everybody loves kitten memes


I just got 2 kittens a week ago. Don't need anymore cute cat videos or memes. Yay
2016/11/12 11:55:05
eph221
Beepster
craigb
 
When I saw it I first thought it was kind of dumb until it hit me that this is really happening all around me right now. One, two, four.




On it's own it's a semi amusing B-comedy flick.
 
But yeah... the premise coupled with the reality that has slowly unfolded since its release...
 
Frightening but darkly hilarious prophecy.
 
*laughsob*




 
What's missing, *in* fortunately is the hubris and arrogance of *those assumed to know*.  Just look at this thread!  HAHA
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