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2013/10/05 13:40:01
Sanderxpander
I have that same card, although MSI branded with a custom cooler, and it's still glitching for me. I'm assuming you're on x64 too?
To be clear, the glitch isn't that the Waves plug doesn't come back, it's that the console is still visible (but not active) "behind" and next to it.

EDIT:
Win7 64 bit
i7 3770 (quad 3.4GHz)
8GB RAM
MSI/NVidia GeForce GTX 660 TwinFrozr
E-MU 1820
Sonar X3b Producer
Waves Renaissance Maxx on WaveShell 9.2 x64 VST3
2013/10/05 16:21:27
lfm
rloseven
I loaded and docked 5 different Waves plugins and they always cleared when I went to the Console tab and came back when I went back to their tabs.  Ron
 

Just to be thorough - any sign of the consol strips should go away when you switch to waves plugin tab?
 
If you run transport and have meters moving - might see consol does not move anything when plugin tab is active. It's just not cleared from the real console tab view.
 
If you can confirm how it is it would be swell.
It's not impossible it's a graphics driver issue.
2013/10/05 18:35:01
rloseven
OK, I have to learn to read.  Yes, you are correct, I do have that problem.  I thought you were saying that the Waves plugin was blank.  Sorry.  And just so you know,  X3a behave the same way.
 
Ron
2013/10/05 19:58:57
lfm
rloseven
OK, I have to learn to read.  Yes, you are correct, I do have that problem.  I thought you were saying that the Waves plugin was blank.  Sorry.  And just so you know,  X3a behave the same way.
 
Ron


Excellent, thank you - and don't be sorry. My first thought about this was graphics drivers.
 
Then there is a clean case for Cake to deal with thanks to all contributions made.
2013/10/09 11:15:50
Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]
lfm
Reproduce:
1. Dock any VST3 effect or instrument in multidock, in my case I have only Waves.
2. Shift to consol tab and then back, the console will remain.
You already see while tab created is active you get popup window remains as well as anything in background.
Only the exact space occupied by plugin is redrawn.
 
VST2 effects and instruments though works fine. Clears to nice background of workspace.
 
I have a Nvidia GeForce 210 card with latest drivers if that matters.
W7 Pro, i7-860 2.8GHz, 8G ram.
 
Can anybody else confirm, please?
 
I should add, I did not test this in X3a, so it might be that way for a while.
 
Thanks.




Confirmed on my end here at HQ.  We will be looking into this further.  Sorry for the late response!
-DG
2013/10/09 11:22:11
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
It only happens with certain VST3 plugins. We'll fix it
2013/10/10 16:13:23
ptheisen
Since I didn't see anyone else mention it in this thread, and in case it matters, I've also seen it happen with Izotope Ozone 5.
 
Overall, I am enjoying and having no problems with X3b. Great job, Cakewalk! I really appreciate the greatly increased presence of the Cakewalk staff here on the forum. Along with the similarly great increase in positivity on the forum, it feels like the good old days again. (I've  been a Cakewalk user since Pro Audio 5 and a daily forum reader for a long time, I just don't post much.)
2013/10/11 14:40:59
Lance Riley [Cakewalk]
ptheisen
Since I didn't see anyone else mention it in this thread, and in case it matters, I've also seen it happen with Izotope Ozone 5.
 
 



Paul, Are you seeing this issue with Ozone 5 in X3b? Are you using the the normal or advanced version?
2013/10/11 16:56:05
ptheisen
Lance, I'm using X3b 64 bit with Windows 7 on an Intel Q6600. And, since this is a graphics related issue, I have an ATI 5450 graphics card.
 
I played around with it a bit, it actually happens with quite a few plugins and instruments, whether they are VST3 or not. I'm using the normal version of Ozone, by the way.
 
Here's a technical description of what I see on my machine:
 
If the width or height of the gui switched to is smaller than the width or height of the gui switched from, the light gray background is redrawn as if allowing for a gui about 1/8" larger than the actual dimension of the gui switched to, leaving that 1/8" strip of the gui switched from along the right and/or bottom edge of the gui switched to.
 
Example: gui1 is 10" wide x 8" high; gui2 is 7" wide x 6" high. When switching from gui1 to gui2, the background redraw leaves a rectangle 7 1/8" wide x 6 1/8" high for gui2, then gui2 redraws a rectangle 7" wide x 6" high, so to the right and bottom of gui2 you see the 1/8" of gui1 that was not cleared by the background redraw.
 
When switching from a smaller gui to a larger gui, I do not see anything unexpected.
 
Hope this helps.
2013/10/11 18:24:29
stevec
I haven't seen this problem myself, but that's a really good description! 
 
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