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  • Beginner Midi-ist: Help splitting midi into separate tracks per drum kit piece (p.2)
2013/10/10 12:17:32
Kerch
brundlefly
I still often put different pieces or groups of pieces on different tracks as I record them. It's easy enough to show some or all tracks in the PRV together, and then different multi-piece parts (e.g. Hats or Toms) have their own color, making it easier to see what's what. Another reaon I do it is to easily be able to balance the aggressiveness of different pieces/parts by tweaking velocity offset on the track, rather than having to destructively edit and re-edit velocities of individual note numbers in a one-track PRV.

 
Thanks for the input. I was actually thinking about this after reading one of the posts, i.e., maybe not separating each piece into its own track, but grouping certain pieces, like kick, snare and toms on one; hats on another; cymbals on another, etc.
 
How would I go about doing this? I see the advice to run the "split notes to track" script above, but at what point in the process of actually recording midi notes would I run that script? For example, if I record a few measures of the kick and snare and wanted those to be on their own track, would I THEN run the "split notes to track" script, or is there some other method?
 
Thanks.



2013/10/10 13:17:09
brundlefly
Depends on how you're recording. Are you playing a full drum controller kit or recording parts from a keyboard or pad controller? Since I'm not a drummer, I generally record each part onto its own track as I go: Arm a track and record kick and snare; disarm that track, arm another and record Hats, and so on.
 
If you record multiple parts from any one controller simultaneously, you'll have to manually select note numbers or groups of numbers and copy-paste/drag them to another track. One way to do this is to have the docked PRV and tracks visible at the same time, then click on note numbers in the PRV to select them all, and Shift+Drag the selection from the one track to the target track (created in advance). Holding Shift keeps the notes from changing times when you drag them.
2013/10/10 13:19:43
dubdisciple
I keep them together for ease of editing and then make a copy that I break up if i want to split.
2013/10/10 14:00:41
Kerch
brundlefly
Depends on how you're recording. Are you playing a full drum controller kit or recording parts from a keyboard or pad controller? Since I'm not a drummer, I generally record each part onto its own track as I go: Arm a track and record kick and snare; disarm that track, arm another and record Hats, and so on.
 
If you record multiple parts from any one controller simultaneously, you'll have to manually select note numbers or groups of numbers and copy-paste/drag them to another track. One way to do this is to have the docked PRV and tracks visible at the same time, then click on note numbers in the PRV to select them all, and Shift+Drag the selection from the one track to the target track (created in advance). Holding Shift keeps the notes from changing times when you drag them.





Thanks a lot, I think I've generally got the idea now. So it's just a matter of adding Addictive Drums, recording the part(s) I want, then creating another midi track that references AD, arming it and repeating the process?
2013/10/10 14:18:03
brundlefly
Exactly. Also, you can put the MIDI tracks and Addictive audio output track(s) in a folder to keep them all together and easily be able to collapse the tracks when you're not working on them.
2013/10/10 22:49:44
lawajava
I work in folders as well. In my case I always split the drum kit into separate Midi tracks. Much easier to edit anything that way.
2013/10/10 23:32:02
Blades
Welcome Kerch,
 
Please take the few minutes to watch the video I put together on my site on how to use drum maps in Sonar.  I think you will find it well worth the time.  You can find the video here: http://blades85.com/music/sonar/88-specific-topics/79-sonar-drum-maps
2013/10/11 11:13:15
Kerch
Blades
Welcome Kerch,
 
Please take the few minutes to watch the video I put together on my site on how to use drum maps in Sonar.  I think you will find it well worth the time.  You can find the video here:


Thanks, will check it out.
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