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2016/11/08 03:32:29
jamesg1213
SuperMarioGamer
 
That way, I could fully go through with composing and achieve the recognition I want.  As far as recognition goes, you can pay to have your music featured on YouTube.  I think it is called promoting your videos so that you can get many views and comments at the leisure of your own home.
 




 
What if the comments say 'dude, you suck at composing'?
2016/11/08 05:28:55
Karyn
jamesg1213
SuperMarioGamer
 
That way, I could fully go through with composing and achieve the recognition I want.  As far as recognition goes, you can pay to have your music featured on YouTube.  I think it is called promoting your videos so that you can get many views and comments at the leisure of your own home.
 




 
What if the comments say 'dude, you suck at composing'?


He said he wants recognition,  he didn't mention in what way...
2016/11/08 06:32:07
JohanSebatianGremlin
SuperMarioGamer
 
 
Now I don't know if everything we do is pointless in the grand scheme of things since I also remain open to the possibility that there is a grand meaning to this universe.  I don't know.  
Right, you don't know. None of us know. Therefore this changes nothing in what I wrote. 
 
 
As far as recognition goes, you can pay to have your music featured on YouTube.  I think it is called promoting your videos so that you can get many views and comments at the leisure of your own home.
 
So this would be the easy way to achieve recognition and you don't have to work for any sort of impossible goal to achieve recognition.


Ok so why are you here asking a question when you've already decided that you know the answer?
 
You: I think I want to learn to write music, but I might fail so should I do it or not bother?
Me: Chances are you will fail so probably better if you don't bother.
You: No I can achieve all the fame I want if I just pay for it so I probably won't fail.
Me: Facepalm
2016/11/08 06:36:54
SuperMarioGamer
JohanSebatianGremlin
SuperMarioGamer
 
 
Now I don't know if everything we do is pointless in the grand scheme of things since I also remain open to the possibility that there is a grand meaning to this universe.  I don't know.  
Right, you don't know. None of us know. Therefore this changes nothing in what I wrote. 
 
 
As far as recognition goes, you can pay to have your music featured on YouTube.  I think it is called promoting your videos so that you can get many views and comments at the leisure of your own home.
 
So this would be the easy way to achieve recognition and you don't have to work for any sort of impossible goal to achieve recognition.


Ok so why are you here asking a question when you've already decided that you know the answer?
 
You: I think I want to learn to write music, but I might fail so should I do it or not bother?
Me: Chances are you will fail so probably better if you don't bother.
You: No I can achieve all the fame I want if I just pay for it so I probably won't fail.
Me: Facepalm


I have to first become a professional composer so that I can produce the music how I hear it in my mind.  Then from there, I would pay to have my music promoted on YouTube.  But the process of reaching that goal might be cut short due to my heart condition and I really hope that this doesn't happen.
2016/11/08 08:12:42
jamesg1213
Pretending I take this nonsense seriously for a minute...one example of a 'professional composer' would be Hans Zimmer. It took him around 25 years before his compositions became 'recognised'.
 
I think you may want to get a wriggle on.
2016/11/08 08:34:46
JohanSebatianGremlin
You might succumb to your heart condition tomorrow. Or you might not. We can only speculate about what happens to you if you do succumb tomorrow. So the better question is what happens if you don't succumb tomorrow? And what happens if you don't the day after that? And the day after that? And the week after that? And the month after that? And year after that? And the decade after that?
 
Like said earlier, you might get hit by a bus tomorrow. Or you might not. And this is the exact same boat every single one of us is in. 
 
When I was in my late 20's I decided that I wanted to learn to fly airplanes. But it was prohibitively expensive to I decided to do the responsible thing and put off pursuing that hobby until later in life when I was more settled and had more discretionary income. I figured that when I got to my 50's I'd likely be better able to afford such and indulgent hobby.
 
Then people I knew who were younger than me started dying through absolutely no fault of their own. Lose a couple friends like that and you soon realize that despite your best efforts, you might never live to see 50 so you'd better do the good stuff now. I took out a loan, started taking lessons and 3 months later I was a licensed pilot. A couple years after that, I was flying for a living and having the time of my life.
 
So the reason that you're afraid to start is the exact same reason I choose to take action. Because none of us know when the clock will run out, so better do the good stuff now.

But again in your case I think your reasons for wanting to write (achieving fame) are only setting yourself up for failure and so I would recommend you not bother. If you said that you wanted to write simply for the shear joy of writing and if fame comes out of that all the better, then I would have a different answer. But your sole goal seems to be fame. If that's your goal I'd say don't bother. 

And to be fair, if I were talking to a young Dave Grohl and he asked if he should get into music because he goal was to get famous, I'd tell him the exact same thing, stay out of it because you'll likely fail. But if you were talk to Dave Grohl today, I'm pretty sure he'd tell you the reason he went into music was because he wanted to play music and he didn't care nor expect to ever achieve any kind of fame. For him, creating music for his own enjoyment was success enough. Everything that came after that was just bonus.
 
But that's not you. If I'm reading correctly, you only want to do it as a means to get famous and if you don't get famous, you'll likely be disappointed potentially for all of eternity. So I say you're better off not trying. Sorry to be bearer of bad news but I just don't see it being in the cards for you.
2016/11/08 08:58:26
Mesh
I say go for it!! Be the best composer you can be.
2016/11/08 09:25:17
Beepster
Seriously guys... this dood has been saying the same thing under multiple handles (all of which eventually get banned) since shortly after I first arrived here. He wants to "compose/produce" the "awesome" and "epic" world changing music he hears in his "head". He writes these long, narcissistic diatribes with some seemingly minor hurtle that needs to be overcome. Others give sincere support and advice which is completely ignored/rejected by way of MORE long winded, navel gazing, pseudo-philosophical stream of consciousness rants. Nothing but excuses coupled with claims that if he could "just get the music in his head produced" the world will see how much of a genius he is.
 
Refuses to to learn theory or any kind of instrument. Refuses to learn or invest in music software. On occasion he's even tried to get OTHERS to fully write and produce his "epic" music by just describing his "feelings" about certain sections in his head (no melodies or description of the sounds... nothing. Just vague, disjointed emotional descriptions).
 
At one point he said he had written and recorded an "epic" video game theme that just needed to be built up. It was a video of some game play with him making weird noises into a microphone ("CHALLAWALLA" lol... seriously). I think it was the last time he showed up when he started just posting OTHER people's music with long stream of consciousness text rants over top of the video describing his "emotions" to... I don't know... prove to us that he really was a genius. The intent seemed to be he wanted to take those descriptions of how he felt and that somehow he (or one of us) could turn that into a fully produced song that would make him famous.
 
He doesn't get mad or aggressive. He just goes around and around and around in circles wasting everybody's time and goodwill.
 
He is either severely mentally ill or he's just some sockpuppet joker doing it for teh lulz. My money is on the latter.
 
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2016/11/08 09:28:50
spacey
SuperMarioGamer
1.I know nothing about composing, but plan on learning lessons on youtube.  I am very serious and am willing to put in the effort of many years to become a professional composer.  But recognition for my music is my only reason for pursuing composing.  All my effort would just be wasted if I can't get my awesome music recognized and featured on youtube, soundcloud, etc.
 
2.I have a heart condition that could kill me before I get the chance to attain my goal.  If I can't attain my goal, then I would not even bother with composing at all.  So should I even bother with composing then if this is my only reason for doing it?
 
3.I don't think it is an idiotic attitude at all.  It's no different than how a body builder wishes to attain the goal of being in the magnificent muscular body of his dreams.  Otherwise, if he had some sort of condition that somehow prevented him from building muscle, then he would not even bother body building. 
 
4.My reason for composing is to attain that goal of having my music featured and recognized on youtube, soundcloud, etc.  You can pay to have your music and videos promoted. 
 
5.Lastly, I have created awesome and strange unique music in my mind that I don't want to go to waste.  But the only way for that music to get recognized would be to become a professional composer because that is the only way I can reproduce the music just as I hear it in my mind.  
 
6.I plan on then getting that music promoted on youtube where it can get recognized by many viewers.  I do not plan on just getting recognized.  It is the music I hear in my mind that I want recognized. 


1. If you are "very serious" as you say, then I think you're looking in the wrong place for an education. Going to school or studying with a private instructor would be much better than watching youtube. Definitely a questionable approach for succeeding.
2. Excuses. Not a good way to start.
3. It's not "attitude" it's excuses.
4. Well, It's hard for me to imagine but I'm pretty sure that having something posted on Youtube has been the goal for others too.
5. Well, yeah. That's what it's all about. To have the ability to write or perform music to share with others or personal satisfaction.
6. You're repeating yourself.
 
How I read you;
You are a misguided dreamer looking for others to make decisions for you while you're working with a disrupted thought process. How deep the disruption is very questionable.
 
My offerings to help you;
You must organize your thought process and focus to achieve your goals.
An example;
Step 1. You want to learn how to compose music. Well study music composition. That means you must find a school or teacher. I'm inclined to suggest a private instructor. I think you require one-on-one guidance.
Step 2. Don't waste time dreaming about what steps may follow before completing Step 1.
 
If you can't complete Step 1. for any reasons...learn to enjoy just hearing the music in your head. Then it won't be wasted.
 
Good luck.
 
 
 
2016/11/08 09:29:53
Mesh
Yaz Beepz, weez noze dat.....
 
Go for it Super Mario, conquer that composing recognition you want!!
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