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2016/11/10 06:39:11
kennywtelejazz
Kenfucius Say  ,
Persistent narcissistic online persona talking in circles who want's to be taken seriously as a Composer with no musical output whatsoever =  Poser 
 
Kenny
2016/11/10 06:43:19
JohanSebatianGremlin
SuperMarioGamer
So what would you say to such a painter and what would you think of him/her?  
 

The same thing I said to you. I have often heard it said that only a born artist can endure the process of becoming one and I think that statement is absolutely true. Learning an instrument is hard. Learning to write music on it is hard. Learning both well enough to be able to then write the exact music you hear in your head is even more difficult and takes tons of hard work. Without a passion for the instrument and without a passion for the process of learning it, you will fail. Guaranteed.

And here's the #1 clue that you will fail. You're here asking the question instead of just going off and doing it. If you truly had what it takes to accomplish what you describe, you wouldn't be asking anyone if you could could succeed at it. Instead you'd be off working on it and no one would be able to talk you out of it. 

But you're not doing that. Instead, you're on the internet asking complete strangers who have never met you and know nothing about whether or not they think you have what it takes to succeed at going from zero to youtube music star. And the answer is easy. If you have to ask the question, then you already don't have what it takes. Sorry champ.

My advice: Go find something that you want to do so badly, no one could ever talk you out of trying. And then go do it. And when you feel like you want to come back here and ask about being a youtube music star again, go do that other thing some more. Do it until your fingers bleed. Then do it some more. Do it until you can't stay awake any longer, then do it more. 
2016/11/10 06:52:04
SuperMarioGamer
JohanSebatianGremlin
SuperMarioGamer
So what would you say to such a painter and what would you think of him/her?  
 

The same thing I said to you. I have often heard it said that only a born artist can endure the process of becoming one and I think that statement is absolutely true. Learning an instrument is hard. Learning to write music on it is hard. Learning both well enough to be able to then write the exact music you hear in your head is even more difficult and takes tons of hard work. Without a passion for the instrument and without a passion for the process of learning it, you will fail. Guaranteed.

And here's the #1 clue that you will fail. You're here asking the question instead of just going off and doing it. If you truly had what it takes to accomplish what you describe, you wouldn't be asking anyone if you could could succeed at it. Instead you'd be off working on it and no one would be able to talk you out of it. 

But you're not doing that. Instead, you're on the internet asking complete strangers who have never met you and know nothing about whether or not they think you have what it takes to succeed at going from zero to youtube music star. And the answer is easy. If you have to ask the question, then you already don't have what it takes. Sorry champ.

My advice: Go find something that you want to do so badly, no one could ever talk you out of trying. And then go do it. And when you feel like you want to come back here and ask about being a youtube music star again, go do that other thing some more. Do it until your fingers bleed. Then do it some more. Do it until you can't stay awake any longer, then do it more. 




You are right, I have no passion for composing alone in of itself.  But I do have a passion for it when that goal of recognition is attainable.  So that is why I was here asking if I had a chance at achieving this recognition.  Again, I don't need to be famous.  I just need to have the songs I hear in my mind to get recognized by as many people as I can.  
 
Therefore, since it is this recognition which is my only reason for composing, then that is why it was so important that I came here and asked whether I should go through with composing in an attempt to achieve my goal, or if I would just be wasting my time.
2016/11/10 06:53:02
jamesg1213
JohanSebatianGremlin
 


And here's the #1 clue that you will fail. You're here asking the question instead of just going off and doing it. If you truly had what it takes to accomplish what you describe, you wouldn't be asking anyone if you could succeed at it. Instead you'd be off working on it and no one would be able to talk you out of it. 




 
Bingo.
 
 
2016/11/10 06:57:41
jamesg1213
SuperMarioGamer
 



You are right, I have no passion for composing alone in of itself.  But I do have a passion for it when that goal of recognition is attainable. 




Do you really not see the contradiction in those two sentences?
 
2016/11/10 07:05:05
SuperMarioGamer
jamesg1213
SuperMarioGamer
 



You are right, I have no passion for composing alone in of itself.  But I do have a passion for it when that goal of recognition is attainable. 




Do you really not see the contradiction in those two sentences?
 




I see no contradiction.  It is no different than a job and getting paid.  If there was a great paycheck for you, then you would have a passion for doing the job.  But if there was no pay, then you would have no passion for the job and would just give up on it.
2016/11/10 07:11:40
jamesg1213
SuperMarioGamer
jamesg1213
SuperMarioGamer
 



You are right, I have no passion for composing alone in of itself.  But I do have a passion for it when that goal of recognition is attainable. 




Do you really not see the contradiction in those two sentences?
 




I see no contradiction.  It is no different than a job and getting paid.  If there was a great paycheck for you, then you would have a passion for doing the job.  But if there was no pay, then you would have no passion for the job and would just give up on it.


 
Wrong.
 
There are plenty of people in well-paid jobs who hate what they do, and many people who do work that they love, poorly paid, or even unpaid.
 
In a nutshell;
 
You have no passion for composing music.
 
Therefore, it's very unlikely that you will ever compose any music, and if you did, it would be worthless.
 
2016/11/10 07:14:03
SuperMarioGamer
jamesg1213
SuperMarioGamer
jamesg1213
SuperMarioGamer
 



You are right, I have no passion for composing alone in of itself.  But I do have a passion for it when that goal of recognition is attainable. 




Do you really not see the contradiction in those two sentences?
 




I see no contradiction.  It is no different than a job and getting paid.  If there was a great paycheck for you, then you would have a passion for doing the job.  But if there was no pay, then you would have no passion for the job and would just give up on it.


 
Wrong.
 
There are plenty of people in well-paid jobs who hate what they do, and many people who do work that they love, poorly paid, or even unpaid.
 
In a nutshell;
 
You have no passion for composing music.
 
Therefore, it's very unlikely that you will ever compose any music, and if you did, it would be worthless.
 




Why do you say it would be worthless?
2016/11/10 07:16:33
jamesg1213
Work it out for yourself, I'm done.
2016/11/10 10:00:21
kennywtelejazz

 
At least in this little fellas fictional story, 
He went through the whole process of embracing his music on the level of a soul quest first...
It didn't matter to him that the whole world thought he was nuts ....
Eventually he did get his happy little ending from Mommy & Daddy ....
That's all he ever wanted After all

 
Kenny
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