• SONAR
  • List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute (p.2)
2013/09/28 15:31:53
scook
bitflipper
One potential answer can be found in Noel's blog, where he talks about Region FX. Any ARA-compatible VST3 plugin can be applied to any random audio segment.
 
I read this to mean that if you wanted, for example, a delay on one phrase of a vocal clip, you could define a region and apply an effect to just that region. It's like clip effects but with greater granularity. It's the underlying technology for Melodyne integration.
 
I do not know if any other currently-available VST3 plugins are "ARA-compatible".


Sounds reasonable. What I was reading involved a different host (of course) and it sounded like there were some implementation specific things going on in the host. Like I said, when I get the opportunity to test for myself, then I will have some answers (at least for my environment). I do not have a copy of X3 to test right now.
2013/09/28 16:19:39
jbraner
I asked the same thing on KVR.

This should be a pretty complete list: http://www.kvraudio.com/q..?search=1&q=&f1[]=vst3
2013/09/28 16:34:22
Freddie H
Welcome to the VST3 world!!!
 
SPL, Elysia, Vertigo, Maag EQ, Brainworxs, Pro Audio DSP, Noveltech,
 
All Plugin Alliance plugins
http://www.plugin-alliance.com/
 
 
All Steinberg, RND Neve etc..
 
http://www.steinberg.net/en/home.html
 
 
Waves.
http://www.waves.com/
 
Softtube
http://www.softube.com/
 
 
Celemony Melodyne
http://www.celemony.com/cms/
 
 
Fabfilter
http://www.fabfilter.com/
 
 
Voxengo
http://www.voxengo.com/
 
and more.....
 
 
Best Regards
Freddie
2013/09/28 16:38:05
arachnaut
bitflipper
More significantly, how about a list of functionality that's available only in the VST3 versions of plugins?
 
I've got VST3 versions from FabFilter and Meldaproductions plugins, but nothing in the documentation suggests that they have additional functionality beyond the 2.4 versions.
 
I'm trying to figure out why everybody's so jazzed about VST3. Is everyone just dying to use Vocal Rider?




From the Steinberg VST SDK:
 

About VST 3

VST 3 is a general rework of the long-serving VST Plug-in interface. It is not compatible with the older VST versions, but it includes some new features and possibilities. We have redesigned the API to make it not only far easier and more reliable for developers to work with, but have also provided completely new possibilities for Plug-ins. These include:
  • Improved Performance with the Silence Flag 
    Processing can optionally be applied to Plug-ins only when audio signals are present on their respective inputs, so VST 3 Plug-ins can apply their processing economically and only when it is needed. 

  • Multiple Dynamic I/Os 
    VST 3 Plug-ins are no longer limited to a fixed number of inputs and outputs, and their I/O configuration can dynamically adapt to the channel configuration. Side-chains are also very easily realizable. This includes the possibility to deactivate unused busses after loading and even reactivate those when needed. This cleans up the mixer and further helps to reduce CPU load. 

  • Sample-accurate automation 
    VST 3 also features vastly improved parameter automation with sample accuracy and support for ramped automation data, allowing completely accurate and rapid parameter automation changes. 

  • Logical Parameter Organization 
    The Plug-in parameters are displayed in a tree structure. Parameters are grouped into sections which represent the structure of the Plug-in. Plug-ins can communicate their internal structure for the purpose of overview, but also for some associated functionality (eg. program-lists). 

  • Resizeable UI editor 
    VST 3 defines a way to allow resizing of the Plug-in editor by a user. 

  • Note Expression 
    VST 3 defines with Note Expression a new way of event controller editing. The Plug-in is able to break free from the limitations of MIDI controller events by providing access to new VST 3 controller events that circumvent the laws of MIDI and provide articulation information for each individual note (event) in a polyphonic arrangement according to its noteId. 

  • Factory Concept 
    VST 3 Plug-in library could export multiple Plug-ins and in this way replaces the shell concept of VST 2 (kPlugCategShell).

While designing VST 3, we performed a careful analysis of the existing functionality of VST and rewrote the interfaces from scratch. In doing so, we focused a lot on providing clear interfaces and their documentation in order to avoid usage errors from the deepest possible layer.
Some more features implemented specifically for developers include:
  • More stable technical Host/Plug-in environment
  • Advanced technical definition of the standard
  • Modular approach
  • Separation of UI and processing
  • Advanced Preset System
  • Multiple Plug-ins per Library
  • Test Host included
  • Automated Testing Environment
  • Validator (small command line Test Host) and Plug-in examples code included. 
2013/09/28 16:39:10
twoifbysea
2013/09/28 16:52:10
Freddie H
I´m using VST3 all the time in Cubase 7 and I can tell you all that VST3 VS VST2 functionality and smoothness is a huge difference.
Just wait until you start midi editing, VST3 note expression and automation, then you will see the huge difference to the better.
I'm glad to see that SONAR finally support VST3. 
 
 
Q: I just have question for Cakewalk. Does the PRO Channel now use VST3 extension or still programed and based on old VST2.4?
 
Best Regards
Freddie
2013/09/29 00:50:25
Muziker
Arturia Oberheim SEM V
 
Can't find my user notes on what VST3 did for SEM.   It wasn't anything that made me want to run out and buy VST3 DAW.
2013/09/29 08:29:38
Shambler
Virus TI and Snow
2013/09/29 09:21:55
Zo
Slate Digital
 
 
2013/09/29 09:48:36
lawp
klanghelm
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