+1. Its always interesting to see what gets perceived as big features by customers, because any given feature has a varying value for different people. To someone a simple change in a tool or the UI that took a couple of hours may be considered huge, because its something that impeded their own personal workflow. This time around though the changes are so fundamental to the DAW and so widespread, that I believe that any user would benefit from them - From the power user with hundreds of plugins, to the user who simply uses SONAR like a tape machine. Even if we took out all all the plugins from the package, its still a compelling upgrade.

mmorgan

Subjacent
 
do I hold on too my £180 towards bitwig studio,

When Bitwig first announced they generated a lot of excitement and it looked like it was going to be a fantastic DAW. These days I get the impression that it is vaporware and that you will be waiting quite awhile for it...
 
Regards,
 

Bitwig is due out before xmas, I will be jumping on that bandwagon myself, I personally think it will surpass all others because of attention to detail, all the video have more than proved to me, but that is because of my chosen styles of dance/club music, and the modulation and the layout amongst many other things, but if you are a long time sonar user or live musician etc sonar now has all you need on the whole, I don't doubt that.
But what you have to look at is Bitwig is not your average daw, like ableton was not / is not, bitwig take the whole thing that much more serious than ableton ideals of making money first and foremost, why it is taking so long they want to eliminate as many bugs as they can now, and test it inside out. But without bigging up a Daw I have never used, or putting it up against sonar, I don't wish to do that, It has its appeal which will be at home with artists like me more so as suppose to the traditionalist, for me sonar is almost their for what it is foundation wise and some, and bitwig will offer me a different take on things, I will end up using both in their own place depending on what I want to achieve, their is no beating the Pro channel and I must admit and despite glitches in the past sonar audio engines it sound better than all the daws I have used, it has a lovely warm and rich sound with excellent clarity I cant fault , studio one was just way too harsh for me, it sound like its always pushing the highs too much so I finished with that.
 
No harm in having  a couple of Daws, I will always have a hate to love relation ship with sonar, that may become all love lol, but I am one to experiment so bitwig will be my replacement over ableton I can confidently say will meet expectations.
I am keen to see how sonar will carry on, so it will always have some part in my heart.

Bigwigis ghostware. Never ggonna happen. 1,5 years since announcement. Or is it 2 years now?

bigboi
Bigwigis ghostware. Never ggonna happen. 1,5 years since announcement. Or is it 2 years now?

Tell that to the beta tester already underway, and constant video updates on features and functions etc, lot of time to waste on a ghost . But not really wanting to go into to much detail about another Daw here, that's not polite, it is almost time, but for now its sonar time and despite my ranting's I don't take away anything from the hard work that has been put into sonar.
I bet you one free future insult that it will be here before xmas, got to have a joke instead of a provoke lol.
 
 

Okay I am off to test the x3 hype, its only money. 
 
Gone and done it 

Subjacent
Okay I am off to test the x3 hype, its only money. 

Hype?   No.   Just a solid release with some really nice new features and a bunch of enhancements to others.  
 
Oh, and a nice selection of plugins for those that do not already own every plugin under the sun.    Like me.    
 

jatoth
I don't upgrade solely for new bells and whistles, I leave that for the ADHD consumers. 

 
Haha - I love it!
 

jatoth
...If I can't see a comprehensive list of changes and fixes, I can not make an informed decision.
I need to know what was changed and how this will impact my work. A marketing piece saying 100+ enhancements does not tell me very much.

 
An excellent point, in all fairness!
 
This would be 1 reason that I have held off upping from X2a as well, [not to mention buying another DAW in June, which is serving me quite well so far.]

Anderton
I understand that if someone already has Addictive Drums, the Nomad plug-ins, and Melodyne, this might not be as compelling an upgrade from their standpoint...

I have them all and I still think this is a damn solid release and worth the price. Eeven with the VST3/UAD bug which Noel says, in my thread in this forum, the solution is at hand, I'm excited to see it in action. For now VST2 works just fine.
 
ARA integration should help my workflow with Melodyne Editor even though I'm just a hobbyist.
 
I like that color customization is finally (back) here .
 
Although I do not "comp" (not bragging, it's just my goto workflow) I plan to dig into it in depth over the coming weeks.
 
I'm a happy camper with X3 and I was a happy camper since X1 (actually I've been a happy camper since SONAR 7 which is when I really went ITB).

Subjacent
 
No worries your welcome,
and thanks for the info / vote of confidence , I almost think I will go for it as I want those colours even if the cost me over £120, I guess something is only worth what a person will pay, and even if its only colours, I would like them So I must pay, their for sonar must be worth it, their I talked myself into it, see you their lol.

If all you're after is the colour scheme at this point, what about getting just the Base version - X3 - not Studio or Producer?
 
Or is that the 120 GBP you've mentioned? Because here in Canada it's $49.00 [US], which is currently 30.58 GBP, no?

Subjacent
Okay I am off to test the x3 hype, its only money. 
 
Gone and done it 

OK - didn't see this before my last post above about the base version.
 
But curious now - which version did you get?