I miss CAL... I thought it was way ahead of it's time and fun to create with. 

CakeFan
I miss CAL... I thought it was way ahead of it's time and fun to create with. 

I'm not sure I follow - why do you miss it?

Ryan,
Thanks for the news. I only called Noel out on the "next" update because of the silence we experienced this past year about fixes, and now being told to wait until next time. Please keep the lines of communication open. If you tell us you will have a list for us, we will gladly wait. A clear response is always better than no response.
I understand releases to the "general public" don't have to include fix lists, but, some existing users WOULD like to know before performing an upgrade.
Thanks again,
John
 

Yeah, I wish they'd taken CAL a little further.
I remember back in the Soundfont drum days messing around and creating little drum roll and transition patterns, renaming the track names to the drum-name in the split-note-to-tracks just for the fun of it.
 
Documentation was spotty, so there were a lot of hits & misses while debugging.

jatoth
Ryan,
Thanks for the news. I only called Noel out on the "next" update because of the silence we experienced this past year about fixes, and now being told to wait until next time. Please keep the lines of communication open. If you tell us you will have a list for us, we will gladly wait. A clear response is always better than no response.
I understand releases to the "general public" don't have to include fix lists, but, some existing users WOULD like to know before performing an upgrade.
Thanks again,
John
 

No need to wait anymore :) 
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/SONAR-X3b-Now-Available-m2903863.aspx

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
SONAR is a massive program and its humanly impossible to address every enhancement request in any one cycle so we have to prioritize.

Did we mention we also want frequent product update cycles?  So it is simple really.  All we are asking for is:
 
- Fix every bug, even the ones we didn't take the time to report
- Add every function that any other DAW has and do it better than any other company
- Do it for half the price and then knock off another 50% because money is tight right now
- Don't take anything away from a work flow we used in 1998
- But don't introduce any new bugs into the ancient processes
- One major release a year, and patch releases every month.
 
That's only 6 things.  You can manage 6 things can't you?  :)
 
I don't mean to pick on anybody.  I know almost everybody here wants to see the product succeed.  And we all ask for things -- nothing wrong with that.  But the code doesn't write itself.  It is hard work and if we held every software project to the standard of perfection or off with their heads, there wouldn't be many programmers roaming the earth.
 

But the code doesn't write itself.  It is hard work and if we held every software project to the standard of perfection or off with their heads, there wouldn't be many programmers roaming the earth.

 
+1
 
Programmers are human beings, afterall...
 
 

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
+1. Its always interesting to see what gets perceived as big features by customers, because any given feature has a varying value for different people. To someone a simple change in a tool or the UI that took a couple of hours may be considered huge, because its something that impeded their own personal workflow. This time around though the changes are so fundamental to the DAW and so widespread, that I believe that any user would benefit from them - From the power user with hundreds of plugins, to the user who simply uses SONAR like a tape machine. Even if we took out all all the plugins from the package, its still a compelling upgrade.

Agreed. I am still hoping for an 'allow only one track at a time to be armed for record' option in prefs as I keep forgetting to unarm the previous track. I record on one track waaaay more often than I do two or more and I suspect many others do but hey ho, I live in eternal hope!

Regardless of that, X3 looks amazing and I am equally impressed by the quick release of two patches to help it along. I believe this could be the release that 99% of us wished for.

My wallet is is in therapy right now as it needs mental preparation for the next 24 hours.

Bibs

wizard71
Agreed. I am still hoping for an 'allow only one track at a time to be armed for record' option in prefs as I keep forgetting to unarm the previous track. I record on one track waaaay more often than I do two or more and I suspect many others do but hey ho, I live in eternal hope!

So what you are saying is you will buy X4 if all it had was an exclusive arm mode and no other new features? :-P

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

wizard71
Agreed. I am still hoping for an 'allow only one track at a time to be armed for record' option in prefs as I keep forgetting to unarm the previous track. I record on one track waaaay more often than I do two or more and I suspect many others do but hey ho, I live in eternal hope!

So what you are saying is you will buy X4 if all it had was an exclusive arm mode and no other new features? :-P

Hell yes! For £119 I definitely would. ;-) it's way cheaper than a brain upgrade!

Ps Don't be starting any X4 rumours just yet :-D

Bibs