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  • Wave to midi question
2013/10/05 05:02:51
maltastudio
Hi all can this feature wave to midi be used kind like drumagogg for triggering Adictive Drums from real recorded drums?
Thanks
Sonar Producer X3b
2013/10/05 07:18:55
markyzno
Haven't tried this yet but I would imagine a better way to do it is to use Audio Transients to extract a Midi pattern from "real recorded drums" and use drum replacement via Addictive drums that way (I have done this many times and it works)
2013/10/05 07:24:11
markyzno
Just tried it for you and it doesn't work, Wav to Midi will extract the rhythm but place them all on one midi note as there is no musical phrase for it to detect.
 
Audio Transients is the way to go.
 
Hope this helps.
 

 
 
2013/10/05 07:32:25
Sanderxpander
Too bad. This works ok-ish in Ableton. Time for Melodyne to update the "percussive" algorithm? :)
 
EDIT Actually in Ableton it's even better as it actually autoloads a drumkit and starts playing your groove.
2013/10/05 07:38:41
markyzno
Sanderxpander
Too bad. This works ok-ish in Ableton. Time for Melodyne to update the "percussive" algorithm? :)




 
I'll try it directly out of melodyne rather than the wav to midi option....

Right, Tried that, I still had to move the different beats on to a different note and then extract the drums to midi....Unless I am missing something Meldyine isnt good for drums (not that I am complaining)
2013/10/05 07:49:59
Sanderxpander
Well actually if you have real recorded drums it's a lot easier since you'll have separate kick and snare mics and the like. Check out the Melodyne site for some videos here;
http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=feature_drums#top
 
Of course, Audio Transients are very similar in this case.
2013/10/05 07:58:07
markyzno
Ta, yeah, all works like Transients as you say....

Nice feature in Melodyne tho where you group some bleed to delete and then can delete that same bleed across the whole file...

But only good in a multi track drum recording and not in a stereo file obviously.
 
 
2013/10/05 08:11:30
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
For percussive stuff, if it is layered, you will generally need a multi track recording of the drums since even if you have Melodyne editor, the DNA pitch analysis will likely not pick up the other drums well independently, unlike pitched instruments. But you can definitely use Melodyne to do stuff like hit replacement and it is a workflow they support.
2013/10/05 08:48:24
maltastudio
"But only good in a multi track drum recording and not in a stereo file obviously"
Yes that`s what i do,so I always have the drum kit multitracked.So it can be done similar to dumagog?
Ill` work with both see how i go.
Thanks for the feedback and ideas.
 
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