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2013/10/03 14:17:44
aglewis723
Hello,

I hope this thread doesn't turn into the whole 432 vs 440 Hz thing, but I just have a quick question, How do I achieve recording at 432 Hz? I use soft synths and hardware synths.   Would i need to do this on the softsynth level?
 
Thanks,
Adam
2013/10/03 14:21:44
Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]
aglewis723
Hello,

I hope this thread doesn't turn into the whole 432 vs 440 Hz thing, but I just have a quick question, How do I achieve recording at 432 Hz? I use soft synths and hardware synths.   Would i need to do this on the softsynth level?
 
Thanks,
Adam


Is there a specific reason why you want to record at that sample rate?
2013/10/03 14:23:48
BretB
I would think he is talking about tuning A=440 not sample rate.
2013/10/03 14:28:47
Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]
BretB
I would think he is talking about tuning A=440 not sample rate.


Ah yes, totally getting that now.  Sorry, totally whiffed on that one. 
 
 
2013/10/03 14:38:21
TimV
You'll have to change the pitch of the synths.  Most, if not all, synths change their master tuning in cents rather than hertz.  From what I can gather, 432 is 32 cents flat from 440, although some sources say 31 cents, so set the synth's master tune at -32 (or -31).  I'm sure neither one will get you to precisely 432 Hz but it should be close enough, unless you're doing it for metaphysical reasons.
2013/10/03 14:39:18
brundlefly
aglewis723
Would i need to do this on the softsynth level?
 

 
Yes, most synths are going to default to 440, but can be tuned. But given that sample-based stuff is likely to have been recorded at 440Hz, this means they're all going to be applying their own flavor of sample-tuning algorithm, some of which may not sound so great.
 
Personally, I can't imagine subjecting myself to such pain if it's not absolutely necessary to match the tuning of some existing material.
 
2013/10/03 14:42:58
brundlefly
TimV
Most, if not all, synths change their master tuning in cents rather than hertz.  From what I can gather, 432 is 32 cents flat from 440, although some sources say 31 cents, so set the synth's master tune at -32 (or -31).

 
That's not right. Most synths will have coarse and fine tuning controls. Coarse will be in Hz, and fine will be in cents. "432" refers to 432Hz, which will be 8Hz = 800 cents below 440Hz.
 
2013/10/03 14:46:05
aglewis723
Thanks everyone for the answers so far.  I just want to see what recording at A=432Hz will sound like.  Tonight I am going to take one of my songs which is mostly all softsynths and will try to tune them down 8Hz, I want to compare the difference, since I am reading a lot about it being the "natural" tone of music, and that the Nazi's actually tuned A=440 and it just kind of stuck, but music is "supposedly" supposed to be at A=432 Hz.
 
Thank you!
2013/10/03 14:58:02
TimV
brundlefly
TimV
Most, if not all, synths change their master tuning in cents rather than hertz.  From what I can gather, 432 is 32 cents flat from 440, although some sources say 31 cents, so set the synth's master tune at -32 (or -31).

 
That's not right. Most synths will have coarse and fine tuning controls. Coarse will be in Hz, and fine will be in cents. "432" refers to 432Hz, which will be 8Hz = 800 cents below 440Hz.
 


Cents refers to the division of a half step into 100 units, regardless of the pitch.  Lowering a pitch by 800 cents will lower it 8 half steps.
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