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2013/09/29 13:42:23
mgh
Beepster
When I'm writing an epic metal drum track double click gets VERY tedious which is why I prefer the Draw Tool for inputting notes. I just zip around tossing everything in and use undo if I drop a note in the wrong spot. Also double clicking every time gives me twice the chance to screw up. I use a very sensitive free floating trackball so the second click itself can throw me off my mark.


I agree which is why I use the step sequencer...much easier and quicker I find...
2013/09/29 14:07:14
Beepster
stevec
Ah...   I use a five button mouse so assigned one of the buttons to a double-click.   So for me it essentially is a single-click, just using a different button.
 




You know this thing has four big fat programmable buttons. I may look into that. I think those other buttons made Sonar do other cool stuff by default but it's been a while. I'll have to check it out again. Cheers.
 
mgh

I agree which is why I use the step sequencer...much easier and quicker I find...



I have a hard time making that thing do what I want in general but I'm going for Neil Peart/Lombardo type mayhem so I just gave up on the SS and use the PRV exclusively.
2013/09/29 15:44:37
stevec
Beepster
stevec
Ah...   I use a five button mouse so assigned one of the buttons to a double-click.   So for me it essentially is a single-click, just using a different button.
 




You know this thing has four big fat programmable buttons. I may look into that. I think those other buttons made Sonar do other cool stuff by default but it's been a while. I'll have to check it out again. Cheers.
 



Np, Beeps.   It really does help IMO.
 
2013/10/01 07:50:57
ston
Cheers for the note input ideas to all!  I shall give them a try :-)
 
> "More to follow...probably..."
 
Whilst Cakewalk are hard at work addressing the above set of issues, here's a couple more:
 
o Allow more than one instance of the QuadCurve EQ to be in a single ProChannel
 
This would be really cool.  Sometimes 4 bands ain't enough.  (Or 6 if you count the LP and HP filters).  It's a really good EQ, let us use more of them!
 
o Allow individual ProChannel effects to be able to save and load their own presets.
 
This would be equally cool, if not more so.
 
Cakewalk, you know this makes sense.  Crack on!
2013/10/01 08:13:05
FastBikerBoy
ston
Current issues I've found with Sonar X3, carried over from X2.  The only change made from X2 to X3 that I was really looking forward to is the QuadCurve zoom.  I don't really care about the other changes, as wonderful as they may be, but I do care about the following and would really like to see them implemented/fixed.
 
1/
Behaviour of smart tool for drawing notes does not make sense with how the Event Draw Duration works.
 
One cannot:
 
a) Simply walk into Mordor
b) Simply click to place a note
 
So one has to drag at least a little to draw a note but this does not draw a note to the length specified by Event Draw Duration, rather it changes Event Draw Duration to the length of note drawn.  What then is the purpose of Event Draw Duration when drawing notes with the smart tool?  Why can't the smart tool draw notes just by clicking as the draw tool can?

 
This one is a setup/understanding one............
 
If you have "last touched" checked (Available from the draw resolution drop down)then a single left click and drag does change the resolution, that's the wholepoint of last touched. If you uncheck it then it doesn't.
 
A double click or Alt + click adds a note at the specified draw resolution.
 
 
 

If you click and drag just a tiny bit, to less than whatever the snap grid is set to, then a note of Event Draw Duration will be created, but this is too hypersensitive; it's far too easy to override this duration, create a note of the wrong duration and change Event Draw Duration.

 
Try using the magnetic strength setting to adjust the effectiveness of it. Remember there are two different snap settings (Ctrl+Shift+N) to use as well as snap on/off (N).
 

 
Also, when in the piano roll, dragging across velocity tails for notes using the smart tool (as the draw tool) does not only affect selected notes, it affects all notes!  I think this behaviour changes to how the draw tool works if you hold down shift while this is done, but the behaviour is erratic.
 
In summary, make the smart tool behave as the draw tool if the draw tool icon is showing.
 

 
Hold down the ALt key that's the modifier for only affecting selected notes.
 
HTH
2013/10/01 09:29:55
ston
Cheers Karl!
 
So ALT is it?  I could have sworn that SHIFT worked for me.  I'll check it out when I get home later on.
2013/10/01 10:37:47
Royal Yaksman
If you're not happy working with this sort of note range:

 
You can enable MIDI Microscope under 'View' in the piano roll and the section you are hovering over does this:

2013/10/01 10:59:59
icontakt
Royal Yaksman
If you're not happy working with this sort of note range:

 
You can enable MIDI Microscope under 'View' in the piano roll and the section you are hovering over does this:





No, he wants to make notes fatter like this:
 

2013/10/02 11:58:07
ston
Yes!  Delicious fat notes.
 
Make it so #1.
2013/10/02 13:49:25
stevec
Dude... this is 2013.   You really should be looking for a low-fat PRV.  Just sayin'.
 
 
 
 
 
Except if it's a Becan PRV. 
 
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