PTravel

Silicon Audio
Folks, keep in mind that virtually all AV scanners have a kernel component also - used for real-time file scanning.  It is effectively a kernel-based driver.  If there is a BSOD or reboot happening during the VST scan, it will be worth temporarily disabling or removing your AV to see if the problem goes away.  The other alternative would be setting up an exclusion in your AV settings for the location of your VST files.

That's an interesting possibility, given that Sonar uses some kind of background process for scanning for VSTs.  However, I will not use any software that requires disabling AV.  Ever.
 

Noel can correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt Sonar does anything directly at the kernel level, so can't reboot your PC.  However, it may be exercising something that does.

That's possible.  However, given that the VST scan is a separate process, I'm not convinced that Sonar does not by-pass OS calls for disk I/O.
 

Question:  Does your CPU usage go up very high during the VST scan?

My CPU usage never goes very high, except when rendering video. :)
 

by sounds of it... you have every answer except the one your looking for.
just step back for a second and listen to some of the posts here.
your simply writing them off because you think that's not the issue or that you know better.
the answers to your problem are written here very clear, just step back and take a breath.
you even have the guy that wrote the code for x3 trying to help you but your arguing with him that he's wrong ?
I don't think so.
 
Sonar x3 is a brand new program and hasn't had time to be run in some data bases yet for Reputation scans, I would reconsider your choice to not temp shut your AV off at least until you've problem solved your issue.
you've said you do this as a hobby ? well the professionals all shut their AV off or don't have it installed at all.
 
im a computer builder myself and have asst. many users here with builds.
the VST scan will not cause a reboot. I think you know what will so im not going to keep stressing that.
I hate seeing titles like the one of this thread because its anything but a disaster, im very pleased with the way x3 is scanning VST's
and its new implementation.

I think its sad that posts with a title "X3 - so far a VST disaster" can stand when its not a true statement.
How many new people who look at the board will think...  Im not buying that.
The search engines will also pick up on  the thread and will put people off.
 
I see this over and over again on the internet and also have experienced it myself with my own TV show.  The negative comments are the first to show up in the search engines and there is nothing you can do about.
 
While I do agree with the right to say things ...  but I also think that such titles shoud be corrected when proven to be wrong.  Its not ccensorship...  it called common sence.
 
 

+100   IMO, this thread title should be changed.

I'm glad I don't sell software. Wow.

same here, change the title, you wont follow any advise given to you by the person who wrote the code for this program and all you want to believe is your own solutions.

Ozone doesn't show in my browser either. I could change that? But I figure a menu is a menu and I just 'right-click' in the effects bin of the track I want to open Ozone on and it is there under:
 
Audio Fx > VST 3 > Mastering > Izotope Ozone 5
 
or
 
Audio Fx > VST 2 > Izotope Ozone 5
 
Ozone is a plug that I only use once I've completed the song, on the master output track, to get a sense of how the mastering will shape up. So it's not exactly a plug I need to click on 50 times a song... 

I seem to have my VST issues ironed out. I have no clue what happened regarding the Waves plug-ins and licensing. It just started working after a few more tries.
 
I like the default organization. It's probably a little more in depth than I need, but it saved me a lot of time organizing my plug-ins.
 
Could be the Right-Click access to Manage Plugin Layouts is a potential bug, but I have the same issue in X2. I have to use the top menyu to access instead of right-click.
 
The plug-in manager took a little longer to open than X2a's, but worked fine after that.

Royal Yaksman
Ozone doesn't show in my browser either. I could change that? But I figure a menu is a menu and I just 'right-click' in the effects bin of the track I want to open Ozone on and it is there under:
 
Audio Fx > VST 3 > Mastering > Izotope Ozone 5
 
or
 
Audio Fx > VST 2 > Izotope Ozone 5
 
Ozone is a plug that I only use once I've completed the song, on the master output track, to get a sense of how the mastering will shape up. So it's not exactly a plug I need to click on 50 times a song... 

When you say browser you mean the plugin browser docked on the right hand side of SONAR right?
I think there is some confusion going on with a custom plugin layout vs the "Default ALL plugins" layout configuration. If you do see it in the normal menu it should be visible in the browser as well as long as you are using the same layout. There is no special logic there to hide plugins. Make sure you click on the browser and from the dropdown on the Plugins tab select "Default ALL plugins". Uncheck sort plugins by category if you want to see the raw layout.

brconflict
Could be the Right-Click access to Manage Plugin Layouts is a potential bug, but I have the same issue in X2. I have to use the top menyu to access instead of right-click.
The plug-in manager took a little longer to open than X2a's, but worked fine after that.

Are you guys referring to plugin manager? If so don't call it the browser since its very confusing to know where you are looking at plugins. Do you have the 32 and 64 bit versions of X3 installed? I found a bug a couple of days ago (in all versions, not just X3) where if you run the 32 bit version of SONAR and launch plugin manager from there, after that the 64 bit version of SONAR will call up the wrong version of plugin manager. As a result it looks like plugins are missing since its referring to the 32 bit version.
I wonder if the confusion is related to this. Its unnecessary to open plugin manager unless you want to create a new layout.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
When you say browser you mean the plugin browser docked on the right hand side of SONAR right?
I think there is some confusion going on with a custom plugin layout vs the "Default ALL plugins" layout configuration. If you do see it in the normal menu it should be visible in the browser as well as long as you are using the same layout. There is no special logic there to hide plugins. Make sure you click on the browser and from the dropdown on the Plugins tab select "Default ALL plugins". Uncheck sort plugins by category if you want to see the raw layout.

Yes, Noel, this is in the browser docked on the right. Clicking on "Default All Plugins" does bring up Ozone 5 under VST 2 and VST 3 in Audio Fx. But clicking "Default All Plugins" gets rid of the Producer effects from the list. So I've gotten used to right-clicking in the bin to place certain plugs. I can still access my instruments by clicking on the 'Instruments' tab in the browser and that is with X3 Effects ticked. But my Dynamic effects plugs aren't shown unless I select Default All.
 
But toggling the lists is still clicking and I as I said, menus are menus. I realise there is probably a custom way to get them all to show up in the browser as one big list (My plugs plus X3 Producer Effects) but it hasn't really bothered me into doing that, at the moment.
 
At any rate, my right button clicking finger (the middle one) needs to develop similar definition to my index finger, as it's started to suffer from rather chronic "beefcake envy."