2015/09/29 15:34:08
Fleer
Cheers, Bit !
2015/09/29 15:38:08
cclarry
bitflipper
Ozone vs. FabFilter - I use both, but for different things. 
 
Limiter:
I tend to use Ozone's limiter for the easy projects that don't call for a lot of master bus manipulation. Throw it on, quickly dial in a threshold while watching SPAN's K-14 meter and you're done.
Pro-L, OTOH, is capable of more clinical tweaking. That's my choice for individual tracks and sub-busses, and for more aggressive and louder styles. Its Dynamic mode is awesome for drum busses. If had to choose one over the other, it'd be Pro-L, but not by much.
 
Exciter:
FabFilter's answer to Ozone's exciter module is Saturn, which is more versatile if you want severe distortion but isn't nearly as good as Ozone for more subtle applications. Even in projects where I'm using all FabFilter stuff on the master, there'll still be an instance of Ozone just for the exciter.
 
Multi-band compressor:
I haven't used Ozone's multiband compressor for a long time, but I like it better than Pro-MB despite the latter's beautiful UI. At any rate, these days I'll use Meldaproduction's MDynamicEQ rather than a multiband anyway, so neither Ozone nor FabFilter wins this round. I haven't used the new dynamic EQ in Ozone, but it looks a lot like Pro-MB, and Melda's UI is a lot easier to use than either of them.
 
Equalizer:
Ozone's excellent EQ has a slight edge on the master bus, but Pro-Q (now Pro-Q2) beats it on individual tracks and submixes. Ozone has the spectrum-matching feature, but I don't use it. Mainly, I like Ozone for the Critical Band view, very handy for mastering.
However, I still have to give this round to FabFilter because Pro-Q is lightweight enough to use on anything, with as many instances as you like. Ozone's too demanding for use on tracks, which is why they sell Alloy, which is kind of an "Ozone Lite".
 
Imager:
FabFilter doesn't have a product to match Ozone's stereo manipulator, so this is a bonus when you get Ozone over FF. 
 
Price:
Ozone is a better bang for the buck, being $350 for multiple effects versus $500 for FabFilter's Mastering Bundle (Pro-C + Pro-Q + Pro-L + Pro-MB).
 
Ergonomics:
FabFilter's UIs are among the very best in the industry. Controls are consistently implemented between products. Multiple screen sizes. GPU acceleration makes controls move smoothly during playback. 
Ozone is dark and monotone. FF wins the beauty contest hands-down.
 
CPU Efficiency:
No contest. FabFilter beats most products on the market in this regard.
 
Quality:
Tie. Nobody knows audio better than iZotope. Nobody works harder to please their customers than FabFilter. 
 
Support:
Both are good, but FabFilter gets the nod here because the developers actively communicate with their customers via their forum. Ask them a question and you'll get a quick reply from the guy who wrote the code. Ask for a feature request and they'll tell you yay or nay. iZotope, OTOH, just says "that's the way it is, live with it".
 
Summation:
Although Ozone is a better buy specifically for mastering, FabFilter wins this contest overall, being appropriate for every stage of production. 
 
 
 




 
That's a much more in depth analysis...thanks Bit
2015/09/29 16:16:19
Vastman
+1
Thus far I've gone with all Fab... got most their stuff now, and loyalty discounts on top of their recent sales have been huge... mixes are getting so much better...
 
Will wait till BF/Xmas to even consider iZo's bundles... last year they were heavily discounted.  Do I need it?  Probably not... will I get it?  I hope I can resist.
 
But for final limiting and maximizing output levels nothing's touched IK's new Stealth Limiter... it is truly amazing
2015/09/29 16:57:52
dmbaer
bitflipper
Ozone vs. FabFilter - I use both, but for different things. 
 
Limiter:
I tend to use Ozone's limiter for the easy projects that don't call for a lot of master bus manipulation. Throw it on, quickly dial in a threshold while watching SPAN's K-14 meter and you're done.
Pro-L, OTOH, is capable of more clinical tweaking. That's my choice for individual tracks and sub-busses, and for more aggressive and louder styles. Its Dynamic mode is awesome for drum busses. If had to choose one over the other, it'd be Pro-L, but not by much.
 
Exciter:
FabFilter's answer to Ozone's exciter module is Saturn, which is more versatile if you want severe distortion but isn't nearly as good as Ozone for more subtle applications. Even in projects where I'm using all FabFilter stuff on the master, there'll still be an instance of Ozone just for the exciter.
 
Multi-band compressor:
I haven't used Ozone's multiband compressor for a long time, but I like it better than Pro-MB despite the latter's beautiful UI. At any rate, these days I'll use Meldaproduction's MDynamicEQ rather than a multiband anyway, so neither Ozone nor FabFilter wins this round. I haven't used the new dynamic EQ in Ozone, but it looks a lot like Pro-MB, and Melda's UI is a lot easier to use than either of them.
 
Equalizer:
Ozone's excellent EQ has a slight edge on the master bus, but Pro-Q (now Pro-Q2) beats it on individual tracks and submixes. Ozone has the spectrum-matching feature, but I don't use it. Mainly, I like Ozone for the Critical Band view, very handy for mastering.
However, I still have to give this round to FabFilter because Pro-Q is lightweight enough to use on anything, with as many instances as you like. Ozone's too demanding for use on tracks, which is why they sell Alloy, which is kind of an "Ozone Lite".
 
Imager:
FabFilter doesn't have a product to match Ozone's stereo manipulator, so this is a bonus when you get Ozone over FF. 
 
Price:
Ozone is a better bang for the buck, being $350 for multiple effects versus $500 for FabFilter's Mastering Bundle (Pro-C + Pro-Q + Pro-L + Pro-MB).
 
Ergonomics:
FabFilter's UIs are among the very best in the industry. Controls are consistently implemented between products. Multiple screen sizes. GPU acceleration makes controls move smoothly during playback. 
Ozone is dark and monotone. FF wins the beauty contest hands-down.
 
CPU Efficiency:
No contest. FabFilter beats most products on the market in this regard.
 
Quality:
Tie. Nobody knows audio better than iZotope. Nobody works harder to please their customers than FabFilter. 
 
Support:
Both are good, but FabFilter gets the nod here because the developers actively communicate with their customers via their forum. Ask them a question and you'll get a quick reply from the guy who wrote the code. Ask for a feature request and they'll tell you yay or nay. iZotope, OTOH, just says "that's the way it is, live with it".
 
Summation:
Although Ozone is a better buy specifically for mastering, FabFilter wins this contest overall, being appropriate for every stage of production. 
 




Dave, does this mean you've got your internet access back and fully operational? 
2015/09/29 17:16:15
Doktor Avalanche
Some great stuff here thanks. Some of you really need to get into blogging it's all well written, clear and useful. Maybe you could make a buck.
2015/09/29 18:14:39
bitflipper
dmbaer
 
Dave, does this mean you've got your internet access back and fully operational? 



 Can't imagine typing that on my phone...now, as to whether I am fully operational, that remains to be seen. Last I checked I'm still getting older.
2015/09/29 20:27:34
Eddie TX
The Bit Man has done his usual exemplary job in comparing these two suites.  One thing I'd disagree with is the ease-of-use comment under the Multiband heading -- to me, FF wins by a mile, trouncing everything, ESPECIALLY Melda plugs, whose GUIs I don't particularly care for.  YMMV.  Anyway, Pro-MB sets the standard for multiband compressor functionality and performance, IMHO.
 
Couple other minor quibbles / clarifications:  Pro-Q2 has an EQ matching feature that is way easier to use than the one in Ozone, and Ozone's Imaging functions can be more-or-less achieved using FF's M/S mode. 
 
I like iZotope's stuff in general, but the CPU hit, among other issues, keeps me from using it very much.  Ozone 5 is still my all-time champion CPU hog when its reverb is engaged, and still very hungry otherwise.  FF is amazingly efficient by comparison.
 
One more thing:  Saturn is VERY flexible and deep, and is well-suited for subtle enhancing as well as all-out mangling. 
 
As you can probably tell, I'm a FabFilter fan.  They're one of the VERY few developers who do everything right IME, from the best GUIs in the business, to rock-solid stability, to quick and easy installation.  I'd advise demoing these two fine vendors' offerings against each other before jumping on the (admittedly tempting) iZotope deal. 
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 
2015/09/29 21:43:33
Fleer
Thanks Eddie for this second take.
2015/09/30 10:11:46
bitflipper
One thing I'd disagree with is the ease-of-use comment under the Multiband heading -- to me, FF wins by a mile, trouncing everything, ESPECIALLY Melda plugs, whose GUIs I don't particularly care for.

I figured there'd be some raised eyebrows over my assertion that ANY Melda plugin might be easier to use than something from FabFilter. After all, we're talking about some of the most intimidating UIs versus what are arguably the most accessible. But I stand by my position: in this specific case, MDynamicEQ really is easier to use than Pro-MB.
 
That conclusion wasn't reached easily, either. I, too, am a fan of everything FabFilter and was stubbornly reluctant to give up on Pro-MB. But time and time again, dialing in Pro-MB was a struggle while MDynamicEQ was set-and-forget. 
 
 
2015/09/30 10:15:24
BassDaddy
bitflipper
dmbaer
 
Dave, does this mean you've got your internet access back and fully operational? 



 Can't imagine typing that on my phone...now, as to whether I am fully operational, that remains to be seen. Last I checked I'm still getting older.


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