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2016/10/23 16:44:37
Rain

 
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2016/10/23 17:43:05
craigb
Rain

 
Made my day...





2016/10/23 18:11:25
Rain
I think people from my generation should be grateful for the millennials - they're so unemployable that they effectively make it easier for people who until recently would have been regarded as too old to find jobs...
 
 
2016/10/23 18:55:28
Guitarhacker
Trophies and blue ribbons for everyone.
2016/10/23 19:12:04
slartabartfast
Jeeze, Rain, aren't you waaaay to young to be a curmudgeon? I am rapidly approaching mandatory withdrawals from my IRA's, and I am still not ready to see the "younger generation" in this light. Maybe my tolerance comes from the education I received through my early experiences as a hippy, and all of the received elder-scorn that entailed. Every generation seems to look feckless from the perspective of the previous generations that have already bought into their role in a productive society, or sold out as we used to say in my youth. Millennials are apparently taking their place as the blonde joke of this century. Excuse me for not piling on. 
 
 
2016/10/23 20:11:16
Rain
slartabartfast
Jeeze, Rain, aren't you waaaay to young to be a curmudgeon? I am rapidly approaching mandatory withdrawals from my IRA's, and I am still not ready to see the "younger generation" in this light. Maybe my tolerance comes from the education I received through my early experiences as a hippy, and all of the received elder-scorn that entailed. Every generation seems to look feckless from the perspective of the previous generations that have already bought into their role in a productive society, or sold out as we used to say in my youth. Millennials are apparently taking their place as the blonde joke of this century. Excuse me for not piling on. 
 
 




 
FWIW, I would actually blame MY generation for raising the millennials - as deplorable as I find the millennials themselves. 
 
I see people my age and older who've refused to grow up, collecting toys and comics, wearing superhero shirts to work, dressing up as their favorite Star Wars character, spending all their free time in their mancave playing video games, watching Saturday morning cartoons in the pyjama while eating Count Chocula - how could one expect people who so violently refused to grow up and who regress every chance they get to raise children?
 
I can't imagine how I'd have felt as a kid if adults had bailed on their grown up role. Where are the adults nowadays? 
 
The flaws of this particular generation are not new. They're just a emphasized buy the fact that they are chronicled and immortalized via social media. But people my age and older are also quite prompt to shamelessly celebrate their own mediocrity and ignorance. And we're the one who hand out trophies to everyone and have graduation parties for kids in grade school.
 
As for the rest, I hated kids when I was a kid, so it's nothing new. ;)
 
 
 EDIT - I do include myself as part of those unfit to bring up kids. Fortunately, we decided not to have kids. Which I guess is also typical of a certain class of self-centered, irresponsible people...
2016/10/23 22:57:41
Mosvalve
As far as having kids go, if you don't want them don't have them. That is the right thing to do. There are many who have kids who just do want to parent.
2016/10/23 23:18:10
sharke
I hear the idea that Millennials are no different to previous generations expressed all the time, but I don't know man, I've been an employer for over 10 years mainly hiring kids of the 20-30 age group and I feel like I've been in a position to rate them objectively in terms of their attitude to the job, their work ethic, how quickly they pick things up, their communication skills, ability to handle criticism etc. And I have to say that over the past 5 years I've seen a very sharp decline in the general quality of young employees. There are always exceptions though and I've had a few shining stars, but damn it's getting harder and harder to find them. There is something going on, for sure. I have phone conversations with applicants that you would not believe, they have no idea how to sell themselves and no idea what kind of qualities employers are looking for. There must be some kind of decline in teaching methods or something going on somewhere. 
2016/10/24 00:18:44
craigb
There's NO WAY anyone can claim that Millennials are no different than previous generations.  We were taught to work from a young age, to respect others (and the elderly) and that it's better to earn things.  I haven't seen ANY of these traits in the latest generation (with a few very notable exceptions).
2016/10/24 00:50:58
Rain
craigb
There's NO WAY anyone can claim that Millennials are no different than previous generations.  We were taught to work from a young age, to respect others (and the elderly) and that it's better to earn things.  I haven't seen ANY of these traits in the latest generation (with a few very notable exceptions).




Living in a very small town and being a somewhat rebellious kid - and, more importantly, refusing to cut my hair - I can testify to that.  And when you couldn't find work, people weren't sympathizing or enabling you. My parents were on my ass ALL the time.
 
I remember one summer I couldn't find work. They sent me to one of my uncles and I ended up being a lumberjack for the summer. At the end of the summer, I received a symbolic compensation : $50 for a whole summer of very hard physical work. And that was not in the 1940's, but in the 90's.
 
And in all honesty, I never felt that I'd been taken advantage of. I didn't expect any money. I knew that the point was to teach me that I had to work, and that as long as I was fed and had a roof over my head, and that my parents paid for me to go back to school at the end of the summer, it was a fair deal. And trust me, it was better than to have them on constantly nagging me "Get a job!".
 
A millennial would probably sue his parents if that happened to him.
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