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  • Has anyone worked with Audiosnap in X3 yet? Is it less twitchy? Couple other ?'s as well.
2013/09/29 07:45:16
Beepster
Audiosnap is one of my biggest beefs with Sonar at the moment. The weird way it detects (or doesn't detect). The graphical wackiness with the transients. Transients not moving, selecting or general behaving as they should. Not saving properly if in the middle of AS sessions. Etc. You know the deal. I know they didn't update that section of the program but am wondering if any of the core enhancements has alleviated some of this bizarre behavior.
 
Also... has anyone run into the "Selection Bug"? The one where in some projects when trying to select something other things get selected randomly and once it starts it doesn't stop.
 
And general graphical glitches like waves washing out, clips momentarily disappearing, screen not updating reliably. Is that stuff fixed?
 
Are the buttons all responding as they should (like the Take Lane MSR buttons which never seemed to work reliably).
 
Just curious as these, as I've mentioned before, are the most annoying parts of X2 for me.
 
Oh and how about that problem that would cause a crash while browsing through more than a dozen synth patches (although I think this is a Dim Pro problem?
 
Hope you are all enjoying your new goodies. Cheers.
2013/09/29 08:57:58
markyzno
We always seem to cross streams on this one Mr Beep!
 
so far....on an 8 track drum recording...the graphical glitches....are.......wait for it.......
 


































FIXED!!!
2013/09/29 08:59:14
gswitz
Hey Beep!
 
I took this tune...
20130622_Anti_28_BobbyMcGee.mp3
 
and followed the directions here...
http://www.cakewalk.com/D...default.aspx?Doc=SONAR X3&Lang=EN&Req=AudioSnap.08.html#1153985
 
to take the live recording and map the project tempo to the tempo of the recording...
It came out looking like this...

 
Which looked decent. Next, I set the clip to follow project tempo and changed the project tempo to a hard 180 BPM. Next, I bounced to clip and exported.
 
This is the clip that resulted.
20130622_Anti_28_BobbyMcGee_Test180.mp3
 
 It seemed to work ok to me.
 The resulting MP3 is about 6 seconds shorter than the original due to time stretching.
2013/09/29 09:09:39
Beepster
That's great, Markyzno. You're using Audiosnap on it? I'm still convinced the touch implementations and trying to cram in Win8 compatibility before 8 was released are what caused a lot of X2s niggles. I'm also getting the impression that's why they didn't bother with a second patch because it was too borked up to get up to speed with the final release of Win8. Pure speculation though. Cheers.
 
Hi, gswitz (sorry I haven't gotten back to you... got swept up in the hoopla). I'll check that out in a bit when I dig out my phones. I'm still watching and waiting for now on the X3 thing and will for a while but if it happens it'll probably be the Studio version. Just wish the Quad and Tape Sim came with it. :-/
2013/09/29 09:09:40
gswitz
I just took an old project and made a copy of it.
I hit select all in the tracks view and hit delete.
 
** It did not delete all the clips **
It left 2 clips behind. They did have a slightly different coloring... not sure why.
 
To be sure, I did this...
I ctrl+z to undo > ctrl+shift+a to deselect all > ctrl+a to select all > delete...
 
** same 2 clips survived the delete **
 
When I do it a second time, all the clips are deleted.
2013/09/29 09:11:53
Grem
Not bad.
2013/09/29 09:13:03
Beepster
Heh. I was replying to the pre edit post. Seems to still be missing something. Did you use FBBs Extract Tempo method? Unfortunately the tunes I'm working on were WAY too wonked for that but maybe with the improvements I could deal with the more consistent ones. Hours upon HOURS of creating tempo maps manually is... well, not fun. ;-)
 
2013/09/29 09:13:19
markyzno
Beepster
That's great, Markyzno. You're using Audiosnap on it? I'm still convinced the touch implementations and trying to cram in Win8 compatibility before 8 was released are what caused a lot of X2s niggles. I'm also getting the impression that's why they didn't bother with a second patch because it was too borked up to get up to speed with the final release of Win8. Pure speculation though. Cheers.
 
Hi, gswitz (sorry I haven't gotten back to you... got swept up in the hoopla). I'll check that out in a bit when I dig out my phones. I'm still watching and waiting for now on the X3 thing and will for a while but if it happens it'll probably be the Studio version. Just wish the Quad and Tape Sim came with it. :-/


 Yes Mate, audio snap and transients are working AS THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN in the first place. We both had the same issue and I can say that mine are fixed (although i have only tested this on one project....)
2013/09/29 09:15:14
Beepster
gswitz
I just took an old project and made a copy of it.
I hit select all in the tracks view and hit delete.
 
** It did not delete all the clips **
It left 2 clips behind. They did have a slightly different coloring... not sure why.
 
To be sure, I did this...
I ctrl+z to undo > ctrl+shift+a to deselect all > ctrl+a to select all > delete...
 
** same 2 clips survived the delete **
 
When I do it a second time, all the clips are deleted.




Hmm... that almost sounds like the selection bug but it would usually repeat the glitch no matter how many times you did... so, that is an improvement. Cheers.
2013/09/29 09:17:46
gswitz
I don't know if FBBs instructions differ from the Help Link I used to make the changes, but the instructions I followed are in this link.
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR X3&Lang=EN&Req=AudioSnap.08.html#1153985
 
 
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