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2013/09/25 08:56:14
bladetragic
Well, for me, my biggest issue was definitely Take Lanes.  A "bit" buggy is an understatement imo.  At the very least they should address that for X2 users seeing as how it was one of the major new features advertised w/ X2 and never functioned properly from day one.
 
There's other minor stuff. For instance, the preview bus in the browser behaves weirdly and resets itself often. No rhyme or reason that I have been able to figure out.  I have a bus track set up and set to a certain volume specifically to avoid things unexpectedly blasting out at loud volumes when I'm going through sounds in the browser.  I've been blasted on many occasions when the preview bus resets itself.  Since I'm a producer and not a mixer that is a problem, as auditioning sounds, loops, and samples is a big part of what I do.
2013/09/25 09:05:05
jb101
I'm with Colin and Sven Arne.

Since the "a" patch, X2 has been solid as a rock for me - take lanes included.

Far more people are having a positive experience of X2 , from what I can see. It may not appear so looking at posts on here, but there are reasons for that..
2013/09/25 09:15:19
bladetragic
I seriously have to wonder if anyone saying Take Lanes is rock solid is actually thoroughly using it.  And I'm not talking about workarounds.  The fact that one of the reps has stated that Take Lanes has gone through a massive overhaul in X3 tells you that it is definitely not rock solid in X2 or X2a.
2013/09/25 09:15:43
cclarry
Here's what I see...

Cake had a choice....fix the issues in X2a while working on X3 and give that fix for FREE...
OR
Fix the issues during the re-write and CHARGE for it.....they chose to CHARGE FOR IT...
and INCREASE the upgrade price to $149 from the $99 it used to be...that's a 50% 
price increase in a year...AND they didn't support X2 really, and remained
completely silent about it during the process...more of a gamble...
and, after removing the "FLUFF" 3rd party stuff in the upgrade, that most users
already have...you get the picture...

That's 2 strikes....

If X3 is a bug fest...they better get their resumes updated...that's all I'm sayin....

I can tell you for sure...people are getting tired of CORPORATE GREED...and 
Corporate avarice, and that's going to be a HUGE factor here...especially as the 
competition is increasing, and others are lowering their prices to be competitive...

If this isn't the BE ALL AND END ALL OF UPGRADES (which it most probably won't be) then
the Bakers took the cake out of the oven too soon and it's fallen...especially
when they NEVER EVEN TRIED TO FINISH the LAST CAKE....

HUGE GAMBLE ON THEIR PART!

On the other side, it appears the Dev cycle is down to a year...don't know if that's
good or bad....I know it's good for the company, as they get money every year if
they do that...but, will it hurt the product is the question.

That being said, they've done a lot of what we asked for, at least on paper....so that's a good thing...but is
it too little too late...time will tell...

One thing I know...most here will cave and buy...OCD is rampant here...we, in America
have been trained from youth to be consumers, and to "have to have the latest and greatest"
and the companies know this....and prey on it...

I, for one, will probably hold out...I'll let others be the beta testers this time...and wait for a lower price
and for the bugs to get worked out...if that doesn't come...oh well...but you can bet that
there will be "lots of carrots" if this launch doesn't go over well...

Here's to hoping they got it right!
2013/09/25 09:35:10
chuckebaby
ive been solid since x2a and here is the problem for those that are unhappy about not getting a x2b,
some of us are saying we are running solid and others are saying they are having issues.
 
there are a lot of people using sonar, sooooo many people.
most of the people come here to complain because this is a support forum,
the other part are people that come here to help others solve they're problems.
 
sure I would have liked to see a x2b with some enhancements and fixed issues(for me only nagging issues/no show stoppers.
threads like this are a pile on, one person complains and then everyone and their brother comes out of the woods to pile on how p.o.'d they are.
 
just remember cakewalk has a lot of users and its hard to please every single one of them.
so when someone says I hate this, another with a totally different problem(maybe even related to a hardware, soundcard conflict) turns it into cakewalks fault.
 
you wouldn't blame your soundcard and go to their forum and trash them...but you'll come to cakewalks forum and write it here.
there are many more factors than just the software.
2013/09/25 09:43:53
mmorgan
I'm not p o'd. I look at the Cakewalk team with a great deal of admiration. I also look at what some other vendors are doing with regard to communication and I think Cakewalk might want to look into possibly rethinking their current policies. I don't think there is anything bad about posting an opinion towards that end.
 
There is a reasonable tone that can be presented to Cakewalk with reasonable requests for information. Bug reports, feature requests etc. so on and so forth are also proper avenues for communicating with Cakewalk.
 
I was hoping for an X2b but that is not 2b so I look forward to X3 and hope that it gets here soon.
 
Regards,
2013/09/25 09:55:15
SvenArne
cclarry
 
One thing I know...most here will cave and buy...OCD is rampant here...we, in America
have been trained from youth to be consumers, and to "have to have the latest and greatest"
and the companies know this....and prey on it...



Not an American, but is it possible that a lot of people are very happy with X2 and are perfectly willing to pay for an even better and more mature program?
2013/09/25 10:00:11
SvenArne
bladetragic
I seriously have to wonder if anyone saying Take Lanes is rock solid is actually thoroughly using it.  And I'm not talking about workarounds.  The fact that one of the reps has stated that Take Lanes has gone through a massive overhaul in X3 tells you that it is definitely not rock solid in X2 or X2a.




 
Solid as in not causing instability - yes
Solid as in predictable - yes
Solid as in elegant and intuitive - no
 
I use take lanes every day, and while they're not impressive, they basically do the job so I'm not demanding my money back. I still like them better than the 'layers' of yore...
 
I'm excited to see how they've improved them in X3.
 
Sven
2013/09/25 10:11:00
cclarry
SvenArne
cclarry
 
One thing I know...most here will cave and buy...OCD is rampant here...we, in America
have been trained from youth to be consumers, and to "have to have the latest and greatest"
and the companies know this....and prey on it...



Not an American, but is it possible that a lot of people are very happy with X2 and are perfectly willing to pay for an even better and more mature program?



I'm not saying people aren't happy ....Sonar is my favorite DAW...so don't get me wrong..

But, historically, EVERYONE HERE IN AMERICA IS OCD....they HAVE to HAVE the new stuff...and
be the first on the block to do so...they think they get bragging rights by doing it...and status...

Companies LOVE this mentality..they PROMOTE IT...and it's NOT just America...MOST of the free world
OPENLY PROMOTES consumerism...they TEACH IT in schools and on TV....it's HAMMERED into our head
from youth...and it's a mental disorder that they LOVE...and use to their advantage...

Maybe, just maybe, it's time to really "stop and think" for a minute...
If X2 is so great and stable WHY upgrade right away???  Let 'em get the 
bugs out, get the price down, and then upgrade?  Seems a LOGICAL path to 
follow, especially if everything is currently SO GREAT with X2...why risk upsetting
a stable system?

Just  a thought...
2013/09/25 10:11:12
joel77
I didn't get to see the list of features, as the Sweetwater ad was down before I had a chance to look. I'm taking a wait and see approach.
 
Sonar X2a has been mostly a pleasure for me. I'm not a super power user, but I've never had it crash either. There are, of course things that I would do differently, but I'm not the one designing the lay out of the program. It's taken some adjusting, but that is true of every new version of any program. Hell, it took most of a year before I finally figured out how to power down Windows 8!!  lol!  ...... not that I was looking that hard and I don't use that computer all that often.
 
I am excited to see what all they've changed/added/updated with X3. 
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