2016/10/19 14:18:17
Unknowen
my frontier dsl internet is   ping 36ms DL 5.01 UL 0.55
Midco cable is ping 20ms DL 48.53 UL 7.72
 
Must be doing something wrong?
 
2016/10/19 15:49:20
slartabartfast
craigb
Nice, but is that wireless from over 45 feet away from the router James? 




The only ping that will be at all affected by the distance from your computer to the router will be to ping the router itself. That should only take a negligible period if you were miles away. Open a command prompt and type "ping [your router address, typically 192.168.0.1]" Ping will only report < 1ms, but again that has nothing to do with the distance. The travel time for a signal in copper is astonishingly fast, and fiberoptic even faster compared to the processing time in intermediate hosts. That speed is the rate of transmission of the electrical wave in copper, approximately 2/3 the speed of light (or ~200,000 meters/sec), and is orders of magnitude faster than an electron will travel through the wire. Light in fiber optic cable travels about 200 million meters/second. The speed of transmission in a wireless signal approaches the speed of light in air or close to 300 million meters/second.
 
The ping you are getting with a speed test is the travel time to and from the server that is hosting the speed test over the internet. The most important factor there is the number of hops required to get to that distant server and back. Every computer along the path has to process the data that is the ping and forward it on, and that is the source of the delay. There may also be dumb repeaters along the way that act like fast processors, but nontheless introduce delays orders of magnitudes greater than the signal speed.
 
In a wireless router transmission, the protocol will require that any errors be re-sent. To the extent that a weak signal may be related to distance in a noisy or obstructed environment, and to multiple data transmission errors and re-sends there may be a measurable difference. But if you have a good signal the distance is irrelevant. 
2016/10/19 16:16:34
craigb
slartabartfast
craigb
Nice, but is that wireless from over 45 feet away from the router James? 




The only ping that will be at all affected by the distance from your computer to the router will be to ping the router itself. That should only take a negligible period if you were miles away. Open a command prompt and type "ping [your router address, typically 192.168.0.1]" Ping will only report < 1ms, but again that has nothing to do with the distance. The travel time for a signal in copper is astonishingly fast, and fiberoptic even faster compared to the processing time in intermediate hosts. That speed is the rate of transmission of the electrical wave in copper, approximately 2/3 the speed of light (or ~200,000 meters/sec), and is orders of magnitude faster than an electron will travel through the wire. Light in fiber optic cable travels about 200 million meters/second. The speed of transmission in a wireless signal approaches the speed of light in air or close to 300 million meters/second.
 
The ping you are getting with a speed test is the travel time to and from the server that is hosting the speed test over the internet. The most important factor there is the number of hops required to get to that distant server and back. Every computer along the path has to process the data that is the ping and forward it on, and that is the source of the delay. There may also be dumb repeaters along the way that act like fast processors, but nontheless introduce delays orders of magnitudes greater than the signal speed.
 
In a wireless router transmission, the protocol will require that any errors be re-sent. To the extent that a weak signal may be related to distance in a noisy or obstructed environment, and to multiple data transmission errors and re-sends there may be a measurable difference. But if you have a good signal the distance is irrelevant. 




That I know, maybe you meant to answer Passive Draft's question instead?
 
I was referring to his up & down speeds.  Hmm... I should see what I get directly connected...
2016/10/19 16:47:38
Ham N Egz

2016/10/19 17:17:22
BobF
You guys are spoiled.  It's a great day here!
 

2016/10/19 21:21:13
craigb
BobF
You guys are spoiled.  It's a great day here!
 





 
What do you expect?  You live in Misery Bob, I'm surprised you even have electricity down there! 
2016/10/20 08:19:31
Ham N Egz
I used to have a wet string for an internet connection back in the day , also
2016/10/20 10:55:07
craigb
Ham N Egz
I used to have a wet string for an internet connection back in the day , also




But, then there came a week without enough road kill, so you ate the string, right? 
2016/10/20 10:57:20
Moshkito
bapu
Upload Amateur!





Portland/Vancouver has Crumcast. There will never be a chance to have anything else, specially when even things like wireless services, have not taken a good hold in Portland/Vancouver as yet. And DSL ... you already know the answer to that one!
2016/10/20 11:02:08
yorolpal
Yup...I do well to get 20mbps download.  And I'm grateful for that.  Used to be 4mbps.  Sheesh.
 
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