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2013/09/25 16:46:14
vlab
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
 
Thanks for the report about bounce latency compensation and bitbridge. I'm not sure if that was ever logged so please list the CWBRN if you have it. Bitbridge does add a fixed latency for its bridging. I will look into the compensation issue.



Oh and before that, I reported it specifically with FL studio, that's the plugin I used when I noticed the problem, 
 
CWBRN-10529 has been submitted to dev team from what I know. 
 
Cheers ! 
 
V
2013/09/25 16:51:14
soulicious
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
X3 has very deep ARA integration with Melodyne (or any other future plugins that support the ARA protocol). Both ARA and VVocal fall under the region FX umbrella and are equally supported. So VVocal will work exactly as before (in fact in some ways it works better). As long as its installed from a prior version of SONAR old projects containing it will load fine.
Take lanes have gone through a massive update and the implementation is light years ahead of anything in prior versions. There are new tools, and commands. If you do a lot of audio comping, this new comp tool will be very useful. Don't go by the sparse info in what you saw. There are tons of deeper features in X3. There will be marketing videos and articles that go into much greater depth with the features soon.



Awesome on the bolded points above!!!  I, for one, am a very excited Sonar user!  Thanks for all your hard work, Noel (and company)!
2013/09/25 16:53:59
SteveStrummerUK
Guitarpima
What is the boutique suite?




 
It's a misprint.
 
It should actually read as 'Boutique Suit'.
 
Free with X3, but as yet, only available for ladies of the opposite sex....
 
 

2013/09/25 16:59:23
soulicious
swamptooth

Sonar has its weaknesses, but the whole "grass is greener" adage was never more apparent now that i've built my little studio for the next couple of years.  Sonar's midi editing is way way easier than cubase or reason for the simple idea that you can view multiple tracks at the same time in one prv screen.  This makes harmonization and timing super super easy - it's the best and most intuitive i've used.  try opening multiple tracks in reason (umm... you can't) or cubase (ummm... how do i know which note goes with which instrument????).  i've said it before, and i'm saying it again - sonar has the potential to be the DAW of the future, and i think that going with gibson, esp now that anderton is there, is a portent for greatness. 


+1
2013/09/25 17:03:44
djoni
where are you guys seeing all these described features???
the link in the first post in dead...
2013/09/25 17:12:47
soulicious
Skarda
Oh No, I hope they do not do away with V-Vocal. I have melodyne pro and V-vocal has so much more flexibility greatly due to the pencil tool. Melodyne is very ridgid with limited control. it shift & slants waves where you don't want them. It was $300 down the drain for me. KEEP VVocal


+1
2013/09/25 17:27:48
sharke
I'm dying to know whether they've fixed the problem whereby FX automation lanes are not labeled correctly. It's a major hurdle to my creativity as I shy away from the kind of intricate automation I'd like to do because of the organizational pain of dealing with lots of unlabeled automation lanes.
2013/09/25 17:48:21
pbognar
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
 
I would venture to say that the ARA implementation in SONAR goes even further. SONAR support true independent ARA regions - i.e you can make copies of ARA clips and edit them independently. Also the ARA editing and MIDI integration is very deep, with full drag and drop support, and integrated live preview and scrub inside the melodyne editor. Additionally we were careful to not make ARA support exclusive to Melodyne. Any plugin that supports the ARA spec will be available as a region based effect in SONAR, so the implementation is very open.  I worked very closely with the Celemony team all through this year and I have to say that they were a wonderful and committed team of people to work with. There have been many fixes and enhancements to ARA as a result of this collaboration, some of which were included in the last Melodyne update.
<snip> 


Warning:  possible stupid question ahead...
 
Assuming the X3 Staff View is pretty much the same as before, in theory, would it be possible for someone to develop or modify an existing notation editing plugin which adheres to the ARA implementation / standard?
 
I mean, if you can have Melodyne exist as an alternate audio editor, why couldn't you have an alternate MIDI editor?
2013/09/25 17:53:13
cclarry
dubdisciple
cclarry
benjaminfrog
Guitarpima
What is the boutique suite?


+1



I believe that's a reference to the Blue Tubes Suite from Nomad Factory....


I'm not sure if that is it since it is listed seperately:
 
"Fine tune your mixes with the 19 included Nomad Factory Blue Tubes FX"
"58 total FX including the new Boutique Suite"
 
Seems odd to name it and then list again wit ha different name



Unless...as it seems, the last line is a summary of the TOTAL...just a thought...
58 TOTAL FX including the new Boutique Suite
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