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  • X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow (p.23)
2013/09/25 20:20:40
swamptooth
Beepster
 
Do the colors make it sound better?

 
No, but it tastes like ochre!
2013/09/25 20:27:12
Leadfoot
Ooooh... Pickled ochre...
2013/09/25 20:46:47
bitflipper
guigz2000
Hi,
 
I just don't wanna troll but, if X3 is out in october, does it means X2b is on the way too?
(I wouldn't be bothered by UI fixes and an updated bitbridge which enables me to get my Focusrite Liquid Mix to work)


There will not be another X2 release. Any bugs you're living with now you'll be stuck with until you upgrade to X3. That's not as bad as it sounds, though. Once you've become intimately familiar with a given version's quirks and limitations you can easily work around them. I'm happily working with 8.5 under that philosophy, and will have no problem continuing to do so indefinitely if X3 fails to address my particular concerns.
2013/09/25 21:02:20
Guitarpima
stickman393
Silicon Audio
Regarding colour customisation, it amazes me how this was a life & death issue for so many people.  Honestly, the forum was full of people moaning about it.  Now we hear it's back, and little is said.
 
Feels to me like some people will find anything to b!tch about and when it gets fixed, they just go quiet.  Lame...



Or they could just be realists who are going to wait and see before praising/denegrating whatever X3 has to offer in that regard.



+1
Never in my life have I seen people complaining about people not complaining. Mental!
2013/09/25 21:15:44
jamescollins

For those who are saying that ARA/melodyne is no big deal because you already use it in the FX bin - trust me, this is a very big deal! This was one of the main reasons I switched to Studio One. Once you've experienced ARA, there's no looking back - nothing else compares. And according to Cake, they've done it even better than Presonus - let's hope they deliver! And the possibilities reach far beyond Melodyne - for instance, Presonus have just bought Notion, and it seems likely that they'll link that into S1 using ARA - this would be fantastic (although pure specualtion). Instead of tacking on half-arsed features that don't really work, ARA allows devs to integrate the real thing with their DAW. 

 
If any Cakewalk staff members are still lurking, one of the nice things about VST3 (as far as I know, which isn't very much!) is it's ability to only consume CPU power when a clip is playing. Apparently with VST2, if there's an insert in the FX bin, it's using CPU power the whole time, even if the track only contains a clip that plays for a fraction of a second. Am I right about this? And if so, will this be one of VST3's features which will be implemented in X3?
 
Even though I'm not currently using Sonar anymore, I look forward to seeing what X3 holds...
2013/09/25 21:25:59
vintagevibe
bitflipper
 Any bugs you're living with now you'll be stuck with until you upgrade to X3. 


You are making the incredible assumption that these bugs will be fixed in X3.
2013/09/25 21:35:09
bitflipper
vintagevibe
bitflipper
 Any bugs you're living with now you'll be stuck with until you upgrade to X3. 


You are making the incredible assumption that these bugs will be fixed in X3.


Gimme a little credit, vv.  I know damn well they won't all be fixed, even if I don't know which ones will and which ones won't. But I can guarantee one thing: the only way you'll get any fixes will be to upgrade to X3.
2013/09/25 21:37:52
Leadfoot
guigz2000
I wouldn't be bothered by UI fixes and an updated bitbridge which enables me to get my Focusrite Liquid Mix to work)

Hi guigz,
Use legacy 1394 drivers and get jBridge and you'll be good. My LiquidMix runs great using this combo.
2013/09/25 22:08:11
Silicon Audio
Guitarpima
+1
Never in my life have I seen people complaining about people not complaining. Mental!


My point was, often a trivial problem becomes a bandwagon that everyone jumps onto.  Later, it seems that very few really cared, they just wanted on the bandwagon.  I have seen this pattern play out for years on this forum.
2013/09/25 22:39:35
pbognar
jamescollins

For those who are saying that ARA/melodyne is no big deal because you already use it in the FX bin - trust me, this is a very big deal! This was one of the main reasons I switched to Studio One. Once you've experienced ARA, there's no looking back - nothing else compares. And according to Cake, they've done it even better than Presonus - let's hope they deliver! And the possibilities reach far beyond Melodyne - for instance, Presonus have just bought Notion, and it seems likely that they'll link that into S1 using ARA - this would be fantastic (although pure specualtion). Instead of tacking on half-arsed features that don't really work, ARA allows devs to integrate the real thing with their DAW. 

 
If any Cakewalk staff members are still lurking, one of the nice things about VST3 (as far as I know, which isn't very much!) is it's ability to only consume CPU power when a clip is playing. Apparently with VST2, if there's an insert in the FX bin, it's using CPU power the whole time, even if the track only contains a clip that plays for a fraction of a second. Am I right about this? And if so, will this be one of VST3's features which will be implemented in X3?
 
Even though I'm not currently using Sonar anymore, I look forward to seeing what X3 holds...




D'oh!!! This was the object of my ARA speculation.  Thinking was that if Melodyne could edit Sonar audio, why couldn't an ARA compliant notation plug edit Sonar MIDI data.  And here I thought there was some sort of relationship between Cakewalk and Notion.  Let's hope there is another notation company out there interested in developing a notation plug.
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