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2013/09/27 08:01:01
Jason Gray
stevec
Yup, X3 hasn't been officially released yet, so the only mistakes (AFAICT) are retailers putting up their links too soon.   Everything you read here is just pre-release fever.  Or a kindergarten party.
 


It happens every year, do retailers not get told not to leak it each year and each years the same happens and then it get removed.
its a marketing ripple, created to produce even more hype and whip you all up into even more of a frenzy , thus creating more of a wave that will also sweep up lurkers contemplating getting a daw etc.
 
2013/09/27 08:03:44
stevec
FWIW...    it's working.  
2013/09/27 08:36:02
musichoo
I can't afford to fly from Malaysia ti New York. If I have that money I would have bought the Korg KronoX! Can I at least get a peak at the awesomeness at CW website? Please. (yeah, I am begging).
2013/09/27 08:39:39
jb101
stevec
FWIW...    it's working.  



2013/09/27 10:29:23
Guitarpima
Does anyone know what's going on? All this speculation?
 
It is obvious!
 
With the new updated forum software and all these, "mishaps with advertising", Cakewalk has developed a new mind control. Apple is in on it as well. The new iOS is giving everyone headaches. Sum all that up with the fact that gas prices are dropping and new land masses appearing in the ocean, earthquakes, and super typhoon and a surge in schizophrenia related shootings, it is clear to me that everyone needs to start wearing specially designed aluminum foil head gear. It's the only way to save yourselves! ;-)
 
Ok, carry on.
2013/09/27 12:19:52
Beepster
Guitarpima
Does anyone know what's going on? All this speculation?
 
It is obvious!
 
With the new updated forum software and all these, "mishaps with advertising", Cakewalk has developed a new mind control. Apple is in on it as well. The new iOS is giving everyone headaches. Sum all that up with the fact that gas prices are dropping and new land masses appearing in the ocean, earthquakes, and super typhoon and a surge in schizophrenia related shootings, it is clear to me that everyone needs to start wearing specially designed aluminum foil head gear. It's the only way to save yourselves! ;-)
 
Ok, carry on.




You forgot the reverse vampires.
 
We're through the looking glass here, people!
2013/09/27 19:15:13
WDI
jamescollins
If any Cakewalk staff members are still lurking, one of the nice things about VST3 (as far as I know, which isn't very much!) is it's ability to only consume CPU power when a clip is playing. Apparently with VST2, if there's an insert in the FX bin, it's using CPU power the whole time, even if the track only contains a clip that plays for a fraction of a second. Am I right about this? And if so, will this be one of VST3's features which will be implemented in X3?


For whatever reason this issue is always annoyingly skated over or I just don't understand the responses given. So I've come to the conclusion that there is absolutely no CPU performance improvements of VST3 over VST2.

In fact, as stated in previous threads by Cakewalk employees DXI actually implemented CPU throttling on empty tracks or where no clip was currently playing on the timeline. From my tests I've never actually witnessed this however. CPU consumed by a plugin was always constant in Sonar.

I'd love to be corrected about this issue.
2013/09/27 20:06:15
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
dantarbill
ARA (Audio Random Access) gives the plugin a broader view into the hosts audio stream than the single instant in time at the current playback position.  While it's pretty cool for giving a plug a context view, rather than an instantaneous view of audio...I doubt that it will be useful at all for notation, since that's MIDI related.  (That is unless we're also considering audio to MIDI conversion.)



Right ARA (Audio Random Access) as the name implies doensn't deal with MIDI sources so as such it wouldn't help in this area. Writing a standard for a notation app or plugin to communicate with a DAW wouldn't be that difficult though. And probably easier than ARA. All that's essentially needed is a way for the host to pass its edits to the notation app in realtime,  transport sync and for the notation app to associate its notation metadata with the hosts notes. Most notation apps already have this since they have a notion of playback data and presentation data. I'm surprised that notation vendors haven't come up with this - we'd be certainly willing to integrate with something like that. One could also use MusicXML for the transfer potentially.
 
 
2013/09/27 20:12:46
yevster
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
dantarbill
ARA (Audio Random Access) gives the plugin a broader view into the hosts audio stream than the single instant in time at the current playback position.  While it's pretty cool for giving a plug a context view, rather than an instantaneous view of audio...I doubt that it will be useful at all for notation, since that's MIDI related.  (That is unless we're also considering audio to MIDI conversion.)



Right ARA (Audio Random Access) as the name implies doensn't deal with MIDI sources so as such it wouldn't help in this area. Writing a standard for a notation app or plugin to communicate with a DAW wouldn't be that difficult though. And probably easier than ARA. All that's essentially needed is a way for the host to pass its edits to the notation app in realtime,  transport sync and for the notation app to associate its notation metadata with the hosts notes. Most notation apps already have this since they have a notion of playback data and presentation data. I'm surprised that notation vendors haven't come up with this - we'd be certainly willing to integrate with something like that. One could also use MusicXML for the transfer potentially.
 



Notion will probably support ARA integration now that it's been snatched up by Presonus. And Finale will probably have that integration once MakeMusic is snatched up by the new Tascam Pro Audio (my wild, crazy baseless theory)
2013/09/27 20:13:00
vintagevibe
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
dantarbill
ARA (Audio Random Access) gives the plugin a broader view into the hosts audio stream than the single instant in time at the current playback position.  While it's pretty cool for giving a plug a context view, rather than an instantaneous view of audio...I doubt that it will be useful at all for notation, since that's MIDI related.  (That is unless we're also considering audio to MIDI conversion.)



Right ARA (Audio Random Access) as the name implies doensn't deal with MIDI sources so as such it wouldn't help in this area. Writing a standard for a notation app or plugin to communicate with a DAW wouldn't be that difficult though. And probably easier than ARA. All that's essentially needed is a way for the host to pass its edits to the notation app in realtime,  transport sync and for the notation app to associate its notation metadata with the hosts notes. Most notation apps already have this since they have a notion of playback data and presentation data. I'm surprised that notation vendors haven't come up with this - we'd be certainly willing to integrate with something like that. One could also use MusicXML for the transfer potentially.
 
 


 Why has the Sonar staff view be orphaned?
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