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2013/09/25 00:08:02
yevster
vespesian
 
Um, you can definitely SC with 2.4 vst's in cubase 7 - bascially, it involves creating a few extra busses. 



Interesting. I asked about this on Steinberg's facebook page, and the Steinberg rep replied that it is not possible pre-VST 3. I'm not sure how busses fit into the picture.
 
What is your beef with the engine?
2013/09/25 00:30:02
vespesian
For me, sonar has always very, very fincky with VST's, especially those that employ oversampling. Lot's of crashes, wierd repeating looping freezes, and you can't edit smoothly while engine is in playback.
 
Here's a link for sc in cubase (works in all versions since 5)::
 
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/785080-how-use-sidechain-plugins-cubase-5-a.html
2013/09/25 00:30:02
vespesian
Sorry - dble post.
2013/09/25 00:33:48
chuckebaby
TerraSin
dubdiscipleTerrasin..i get it.  I'm sure if my experience with Cakewalk was similar to yours I would feel the same way. I guess take a look at demo when it is released and go from there.  Why do you despise Gibson?

Because they own Tascam who will be distributing Sonar. They are a useless company with useless products and useless programmers who make useless drivers which cause you to call their useless tech support. In fact, I sold my DM4800 to buy a VS-700.


sounds like Tascam did you wrong, but many of us started on tascams weather reel 2 reels or the mk424, porta studios.
Tascam has put out some brilliant product through out the years and we might not be sitting here if not for Tascam.
sure there would be digital audio software but not the same way.
 
Tascam paved the road for many musicians, many programmer's got ideas from 4 track concepts and Tascam was the biggest in moving them next to fostex which was  les paul's idea, yes, les paul invented the overdub 4 track as we know it.
 
your comment is a very strong statement and far from the truth not useless at all.
they might not have been the innovators of audio soundcards or driver support :)
but they are as I said far from useless.
2013/09/25 00:42:32
sharke
Strum Acoustic! Reading that made me remember that I already have the dang thing. I bought it when it was heavily discounted months ago, installed it and never used it. If I remember rightly, I made a cursory attempt to get it playing something, failed, and forgot about it. I guess I should really dig it out again 
 
With regard VST3 and Waves, I'm not sure what that means. Does it mean reinstalling all of my existing Waves plugs? If so, does that mean I'll lose all of my Waves plug settings in projects? I'm also curious as to how Waves plugs will work in Sonar X3 in general, particularly with regard to some of the glitchy GUI operation. I really hope that is all fixed. 
2013/09/25 01:06:22
yevster
sharke
With regard VST3 and Waves, I'm not sure what that means. Does it mean reinstalling all of my existing Waves plugs? If so, does that mean I'll lose all of my Waves plug settings in projects? I'm also curious as to how Waves plugs will work in Sonar X3 in general, particularly with regard to some of the glitchy GUI operation. I really hope that is all fixed. 



I doubt it. I have not seen Sonar X3 in any form, but what will likely happen is that the plugin scanner will now scan the common VST 3 directory (found in C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3). There should already be a file there called WaveShell-VST3(something something).vst3. If it's there, you don't need to do anything.
 
The VST2 Waves shell isn't going away anywhere, and most likely, Sonar will detect it as well and load it with any old projects that use the VST2 version of Waves. I would hope QA and the Beta Testers thoroughly tested all possible scenarios.
 
Oh, and the GUI instability is most likely due to driver issues. If you have a 3-D accelerated video card, and that acceleration is enabled with Sonar, they should work. I find it pretty ridiculous that audio software should have a risky dependency on 3-D accelerators just to make the plugins pretty, but what can one do?
2013/09/25 01:07:55
yevster
vespesian
Here's a link for sc in cubase (works in all versions since 5)::
 
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/785080-how-use-sidechain-plugins-cubase-5-a.html

Wow, and I thought Reaper's sidechaining was a PITA. Actually, it's pretty much this. :) I think I'll just pray for a reasonably prompt VST3 update from Native Instruments. They've been pretty good with updates in the past.
2013/09/25 02:20:20
Smedberg
SteveStrummerUK
 
Does anyone know if there's a list of plug-ins that come in VST3 versions anywhere?
 
I tried KVR as the most obvious place to look but they don't seem to have such a list.


http://www.kvraudio.com/q..?search=1&q=&f1[]=vst3 
Link gets broken, maybe the forum software isn't VST3 compatible... ;)
 
 
2013/09/25 02:42:43
Saxon1066
Sweetwater site taken down.
2013/09/25 02:58:17
Jackdied
Wohoo!! X3 has everything I need.!!! Just a question. What about 64bit QT video support?
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