MakeShift
I don't know, before I spent money on anything else, I would wait a few months to see what the general reaction is for other X3 users...see what's been fixed or added to the program.  Then I would down load a trial version of X3 when it comes out and see how that reacts to your system.  I don't like to waste money either, but that is the way I would handle this if I was unsure of moving forward with X3.

It'll be at least a few months before I can make a move of any kind anyway (unless I decide to go for the free/cheap opensource guys which... IDK if that's right for me in the long run) but just from the leaked list they haven't fixed one of the major problems I have with X2. Audiosnap. Also a major part of my plans for the future revolve around teaching music so getting something with a more powerful/workable notation feature would be a wise investment. I don't want to shell out big bucks for a program that ONLY does notation and considering my lesson ideas will be very interactive and include tons of live audio and MIDI examples having it right the DAW is very attractive. I wasn't even aware of Sonar Staff/Tablature View when I started and got very excited that it was there. Then I tried to use it. lol

That said I am really interested in the ARA implementation and the color customization. Regarding the colors I sure hope there is actually something that makes sense because at present I've never been able to get much of the current custom colors to work.

 
I guess I was reacting to Beep and Larry's post above.  If unsure, wait a bit.
 
Myself, I have put some cash away for this upgrade in anticipation of a fall release.  X1 and X2 worked great for me, so I have no reservations on grabbing up X3 when released.  I cross my fingers that I won't be someone that ends up having issues with X3, but I know this community is there to help and I can always call Cakewalk direct.  The absolute worst that could happen is to have to go back to X2a which has worked fine for me.  

mmorgan

MakeShift
I don't know, before I spent money on anything else, I would wait a few months to see what the general reaction is for other X3 users...see what's been fixed or added to the program.  Then I would down load a trial version of X3 when it comes out and see how that reacts to your system.  I don't like to waste money either, but that is the way I would handle this if I was unsure of moving forward with X3.

This makes a lot of sense. I know I tend to get caught up in the storm of upgradeitis. This time though I'm taking a wait and see aproach.
 
That said I am really interested in the ARA implementation and the color customization. Regarding the colors I sure hope there is actually something that makes sense because at present I've never been able to get much of the current custom colors to work.
 
Regards,

The Melodyne implementation is the one thing that is really tempting but as I said I'm looking into Izotope stuff and they seem to have pretty decent pitch correction in their bundles. Also V-Vocal may work fine for my limited needs. If I start taking on clients that may change though but I don't anticipate that for quite some time. Gotta get some albums and lessons together to get my chops up to speed and prove myself to the industry.
 
It'll be a good package for many but it's just not the right stuff for me. The X2 release was.

As this thread is about putting things into perspective, back in the late 80's, maybe very early 90's, I bought a second hand copy of Cubase 2 for £799.
 
In today's money that is just about enough to buy Switzerland.
 
It was buggy as feck and Steinberg never bothered addressing any of the bugs and in fact went on to produce Cubase 16 (also damn expensive) which was also full of bugs and then dropped the Atari platform altogether and moved on to PC development.
 

Melodyne Essential was one of the best purchases that I have made...ever.  They are the industry leader and standard; a very user friendly bit of software.

Linear Phase

joakes
Lets hope the Euro prices are decent this time. 1 Euro does not = 1 USD, it never has.

Cake's explanations are a little shakey.........

Cheers,
Jerry

Fact check..   October 26 200 euro was US$0.8252 Today its about $1.35 and that is still well off its 10 yr high of $1.60  Edit = As an avid market junkie, I'd just like to say that, "there is no guarantee the Euro will not crash like a drunk driver."  What is going on right now is, "really short burst of growth, because central banks flood the markets with easy money, but when these mini-bubbles burst, we roll back into months and months of contraction."   The global economy has like a, "chronic bronchitis."  It gets a little better, because of meds, but then it comes back sick again, and needs more meds...   

Sorry, but you missed the point.

For X1 and X2 the Euro price was the same as the USD price.

The reasons given by Cake were flakey and leaked like a seive.

However i still upgraded. I just hope the pricing has been reviewed since.

Cheers,
Jerry

cclarry
The junkies will STAND IN LINE TO BE THE FIRST TO GET IT....always have and always will.
Not me...not this time...

Had things been handled differently, maybe, but not like this....these companies KNOW
that the vast majority of you will CAVE because you have OCD, and JUST HAVE TO HAVE
IT!  They thrive on it on that mentality.  For once in your life, think about...what's in this that you can't
live without for $150 bucks? I really want to know....

This is the kind of stuff that starts flame wars on forums. The need to lob insults at those who don't share the same point of view.  Early adopters have various reasons for doing so other than being "junkies" or having OCD.  I usually wait for the sale, but I certainly don't feel the need to judge and label those who get it the first day.  There are users that have had nothing but wonderful experiences with Cakewalk  and those who have had nightmares.  My experience has had a glitch or two but had been mostly positive, especially in contrast to my experiences with other companies.  The last time I dealt with Steinberg, they basically told me it was my problem if their stupid dongle was crashing my system.  Avid has about the worst customer support possible IMO.  Adobe almost had me wipe my computer to fix what turned out to be a minor glitch on their part.  
 
We will ignore for the moment that harping on the $150 is pointless since we have know way of knowing the pricing.  Yes, sweetwater listed that, but that same post had other errors in it too.  It would not be the first time I saw pricing on a yet to be released product end up being different.  Every time I have upgraded my Sony products, the listed upgrade price has been much higher than the offer that came shortly after directly from Sony.  Let's just say it is $150.   For some people (Like those who collect plugins like candy), it's a drop in the bucket.  I'm not one of those people and $150 is not something I spend casually, but I do recognize that my finances are not the finances of every Cakewalk customer, so it's not my place to label someone who can afford that amount casually.  We get it.  for YOU, the upgrade is not  for you.  Fair enough, but you are starting to be like that guy who not believing in Santa Claus is not enough, hellbent on snatching every kid in the Macys line to inform them there is no Santa and that he/she is an idiot if they believe.  I have skipped upgrades on Cakewalk a few times, or waited a long time to jump in, but it has never dawned on me to play the role of poison pen when I did.
 
 

ston
As this thread is about putting things into perspective, back in the late 80's, maybe very early 90's, I bought a second hand copy of Cubase 2 for £799.
 
In today's money that is just about enough to buy Switzerland.
 
It was buggy as feck and Steinberg never bothered addressing any of the bugs and in fact went on to produce Cubase 16 (also damn expensive) which was also full of bugs and then dropped the Atari platform altogether and moved on to PC development.
 

Yeah, that's about what I paid for Cubase SX3 way back when...times they are a-changin'....
But, that was quite a good program for it's time...and mine...LOL

Has anyone from CW actually said what the prices are yet ? I haven't seen anything official.

ston
As this thread is about putting things into perspective, back in the late 80's, maybe very early 90's, I bought a second hand copy of Cubase 2 for £799.
 
In today's money that is just about enough to buy Switzerland.
 
It was buggy as feck and Steinberg never bothered addressing any of the bugs and in fact went on to produce Cubase 16 (also damn expensive) which was also full of bugs and then dropped the Atari platform altogether and moved on to PC development.
 

Except it is 2013. That Atari probably cost 5 times as much as nice build from ADK as well and did 1/10 000th of the work.
 
A better perspective would be a bag of dry, seed filled oranges. They come with a one of those whistle rings, a box of paperclips and a coupon for some mail order seamonkeys. The bag with all the accoutrements is selling for $10. Meanwhile across the street I can get a bag of nice sweet seedless tangerines for $5. It doesn't come with any doodads or seamonkeys and the bag is significantly smaller BUT I like tangerines and I hate seeds.
 
I mean seamonkeys and whistlerings are wicked cool but do I really NEED them? Even if I did I could probably head over to the novelty shop and pick some up for a decent price. In the meantime I can have sweet delicious tangerine juice dribbling down my face and stickying up my beard.
 
mmm... tangerines.
 
;-)