bitflipper
Just don't let anybody tell you that you must record at a higher rate because it sounds better.
 

Even if it''s somebody like Bob Olhsson?,who NEVER said one"must",he just said something one day on GS that [I can't find the thread unfortunately,so I do genuinely hope I'm not badly misquoting the man!] "I played back some of my older things[?] at 96KHz[again I'm not sure,if he meant he re-recorded,or just simply changed the "sample rate"]and they definitely had an improved sound"
 
I'm very sorry if this offends[or worse doesn't],it's just,as an "experiment" I changed everything in "Preffs.-Audio Data" to the highest-64[even on my lowly Dell xps L502x i7 Sandy Bridge mobile cpu 2630qm,and [of course!]the Highest Sample Rate on my 09 SONAR V-Studio 100,loaded an old project,remixed with the NEW settings and yes,I hardly noticed a difference.
 
A: I have Extremely LOUD Never abating "broken" Crash Cymbal or "Hissing" sounding Tinnitus [ever since October 23 1993]EDIT: Do I?
 
B: I only have "Ro*** 5" monitors,which I HATE with an almost "violence inducing" passion,so Iv'e only been using my old Stereo Speakers ATM.
 
Left Tannoy EATON-10" driver-pepper pot tweeter-within the driver,something called "Dual Concentric"Integrated LoudSpeaker System.
 
Right 8" driver/woofer,2" Tweeter housed in a rather crappy Home Made cabinet[not by me though]both powered by a Sherwood RA-1140 Reciever/Amp.and until I realized the then unfamiliar VS-100 was quite seriously "overdriving" the output signal,was even a "Hair"over "Unity" on the playback pot,the previously "stunning top end clarity" of the Much Loved EATON,was now ruined,to just being "ordinary".
 
Though My First EVER CD,was The WHO,Who's Next-original Aussie Release,bought in 1986.
 
The problem was I'd only used "Bus Powered" USB 1.1,and 2.0[N.I. ***] before,and it still brings a "tear to my eye" that after 20 years of even cassettes[brings to mind Soungardens 1994 SUPERUNKNOWN LP-Snare Drum clarity]was now GONE.
 
I also do checks of mixes,attempts at checking masters before inflicting an already bombarded with"complete toss" public,via soundcloud with the strangely maligned SONY MDR-7509HD Headphones,and THEN I sensed a possibly imaginary improvement,BEFORE exporting to "The Cloud"at 24 bit 44.1 .wav files[which seem to take an eternity-while sufferable,does amuse one how a 105mb "download" is often a minute or so,but the same sized "upload" to soundcloud,can at times take nearly a "half episode" of the English SPY series SPOOKS.
 
My conclusion to all this is 24bit record/renderring,Original import settings[Audio Data-Preffs.]and 48KHz is the best I'm gonna get[esp. with the "dynamic" only mic's],also in regard to HDD space/cpu power consumption/cruelty.
Sincerely
Bob Sattler

bobguitkillerleft
 
I'm very sorry if this offends[or worse doesn't],it's just,as an "experiment" I changed everything in "Preffs.-Audio Data" to the highest-64[even on my lowly Dell xps L502x i7 Sandy Bridge mobile cpu 2630qm,and [of course!]the Highest Sample Rate on my 09 SONAR V-Studio 100,loaded an old project,remixed with the NEW settings and yes,I hardly noticed a difference.
 

That's not overly surprising...
The source material was captured at lower sample-rate.
(ie: Sample-rate converting from 44.1k to 96k won't add what wasn't originally captured.)
The only advantage you'd have is the higher resolution when mixing/processing.
 
Working at higher sample-rates is a judgement call balancing quality vs. performance.
IME, The sound-stage is more 3D and detailed when working at higher sample-rates (not simply more high end).
That said, no record has been (or ever will be) purchased solely because the sample-rate at which it was recorded.
Far too many other variables affect the final quality of your work.  Most importantly, the song... (performance/arrangement/acoustics/mic position/etc)
 

I want no part of the 'range wars' on what sounds better, and only post this to say that my earlier comments were only reflecting the need to produce song files for CD output at 44.1 K, and that DVD is 48 K.
 
The rest of this endless debate is the same as it has been for years and years, and it will not get resolved here whatsoever.
 
So, to the original poster, I hope you got some assistance from my earlier comments, and I hope you manage to skip the rest of this thread.
 
Bob Bone
 

To Bob Bone: Yes, I did, and yes, I have. lol. - Bob

robert_e_bone
The rest of this endless debate is the same as it has been for years and years, and it will not get resolved here whatsoever.

 
Actually it has changed somewhat over the years - because technology and practices have evolved in various ways that people may or may not be aware of the significance of.
But it is indeed unlikely to be resolved here anytime soon. 

Something to consider, you may check with your A/D manufacturer (or critics) to see what the A/D converter samples best at. For example, there's a (remains to be unnamed) A/D converter on the market that supports 192kHz, but really operates best at 96kHz. Marketing is to blame there.
 
Personally, I can't really hear the difference between 48kHz, 96kHz, and 192kHz. For most, the higher sampling rates typically just honor the top-end better or more accurately, but then we're talking inaudible high-frequency. 192kHz also eats more disk-drive space and places a larger load on the DAW machine.
 
I prefer 96kHz to the lower rates, but that's only because my own A/D converter is designed with 96kHz in mind, and it's also the maximum sampling rate. However, if I had to use 48kHz, I certainly wouldn't cry about it. More of my time is spent getting the most out of 24-bit, recording as best as I can, using the best mics and pre's I own (or rent), and concentrate on the best mix.
 
Hope this helps!!

24 bit 44.1 K or 48 K here.

suprised this thread hasn't reached 10 pages yet with people baying for blood

This !!!! "The sound-stage is more 3D and detailed when working at higher sample-rates", internal processing benefits from higher sampling rates as well, i think people seem to forget that, and think sampling rates are all about recording

"Just a note - in the modern world sample rate conversion (SRC) is simply not a problem." I use voxengo's r8 brain pro, but sonar's src is pretty good