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  • Can a bad graphics card cause dropouts? SOLVED: Graphics card was bad
2013/09/19 14:07:49
junedrive
I've been having problems juggling latency and pops with 2 interfaces.  One is an ESI wamirack PCI 192x the other is a new usb behringer fca610. With either unit, with 6 soft synths and about 30 tracks active I'm setting ASIO drivers at about 14 msec 1536 samples, when I minimize Sonar, I can reduce settings to 8 msec 768 samples without pops.   The card is a Nvidia Quadro 280 with the latest drivers.  It's a 64 mb card. Kind of scrawny!  No other symptoms other than this. Anyone hear of a bad card causing a problem with dropouts?
2013/09/19 14:15:53
Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]
Yup, one of our old tech's here was getting huge latency spikes on his home machine. Come to find out his Geforce 460 was throwing huge spikes with his particular cpu/motherboard combo. Unsolvable without swapping hardware. A lot of the PCI buses are bridged into the PCI-e controllers now too, which can cause issues. Same with how the USB controllers are tied into the system and their timing in relation to the PCI-e bus.
 
Run a latency checker application and see if you get consistent spikes in a regular interval. Sometimes it's the hardware but other times it's the bundled software that comes a long with the hardware.
2013/09/19 14:23:15
junedrive
Thanks Seth, I'll run a latency checker.
2013/09/19 14:27:23
Jim Roseberry
In particular, older video cards often cause DPC latency issues with newer OS.
ie:  I had a GTX 560Ti that I was going to move to my new machine (Win8x64).
Experienced DPC latency spikes...
The solution was to replace it with a (new) 660Ti (no DPC latency issues)
2013/09/19 14:30:33
Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]
Jim Roseberry
In particular, older video cards often cause DPC latency issues with newer OS.
ie:  I had a GTX 560Ti that I was going to move to my new machine (Win8x64).
Experienced DPC latency spikes...
The solution was to replace it with a (new) 660Ti (no DPC latency issues)




Well I know not to upgrade my home system to W8 now...
2013/09/19 14:40:12
drewfx1
Just a note - I'm sure many people already know this, but DPC Latency Checker currently does not report accurate results for Win8.
2013/09/19 14:43:23
robert_e_bone
Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]
Jim Roseberry
In particular, older video cards often cause DPC latency issues with newer OS.
ie:  I had a GTX 560Ti that I was going to move to my new machine (Win8x64).
Experienced DPC latency spikes...
The solution was to replace it with a (new) 660Ti (no DPC latency issues)




Well I know not to upgrade my home system to W8 now...


I had one of my two $400+ video cards on my Windows 8 box go belly up, and instead of replacing it, I went with the on-board graphics, and bought a nice shiny new 46" HDTV with the refund money - that now is my main computer display.  The on-board graphics drives a 32" HDTV that used to be my main display - so I have 2 nice big monitors, and ZERO problems with using the on-board graphics and X2a on Win 8.
 
Bob Bone
 
2013/09/19 15:06:05
junedrive
Well then, I guess it's not just a coincidence that this all started when I moved from XP to W8!.. I've since switched to 7 (thank you Mr. Bone!) hoping it was just an 8 glitch... Bob it looks like the graphics card could be the problem we were trying to track down a few months ago.  Hope so.  Thanks all.
2013/09/19 16:31:37
robert_e_bone
@junedrive - Twas my pleasure to assist - I have learned and continue to learn a LOT from folks here in the forum, so am happy to give back when I can.
 
VERY happy you have that set of trauma sorted out for you - nice to hear someone is stable and happy.
 
Bob Bone
 
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