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  • Alright - how do I isolate frequencies on a track? - (not solved - it's not going to work)
2013/09/04 20:42:22
robert_e_bone
Hi - I am working on figuring out the keyboard lead of a favorite prog tune, and in one section the keyboard lead notes get lost in the mix.
 
I would like to try to weed out some of the frequencies by applying a low-pass and high-pass filter to the track that has just that section of MP3 imported into it.
 
The trouble is, I cannot seem to find documentation on the X2-included Mod Filter, which as I understand it is a low-pass filter.  I also have not looked yet in the plugins for a high-pass filter (if there is one), and presume the same difficulty would be inherent in locating that documentation, as well.
 
The frequency range I would like to retain after applying the low and high pass filters is 160-1.3k, and I don't know what all that will leave me, but it is a start.
 
Any ideas?
 
Thanks, 
 
Bob Bone
 
2013/09/04 20:48:36
scook
R-Mix sounds perfect for this application
 
The ModFilter help came up when I hit F1 with the ModFilter UI in focus. The help should be located in "Cakewalk\Shared Plugins" directory.
2013/09/04 20:49:11
The Maillard Reaction
An eq. Use steep q's but not so steep that you cause ringing peaks. Try 1.6.

Double up on filters to get an even steeper slope.
2013/09/04 21:01:37
robert_e_bone
scook
R-Mix sounds perfect for this application
 
The ModFilter help came up when I hit F1 with the ModFilter UI in focus. The help should be located in "Cakewalk\Shared Plugins" directory.


I put R-Mix in, but the sound area in the plot is so small and narrow, I cannot possibly isolate what I am looking for.  I looked at the documentation, but cannot see how to change the zoom level of the plotted sound.
 
Bob Bone
2013/09/04 21:10:07
robert_e_bone
I dumped R-Mix (although in theory it seems to think it can isolate an instrument), and I put in the Sonitus EQ and set a couple of bands for a low-pass and high-pass for the frequency range I want to retain, and I suppose I will work with that.  It's likely close enough to where I can figure out what I am trying to hear and decipher.
 
Thanks, 
 
Bob Bone
 
2013/09/04 21:14:33
scook
I do not believe there is a zoom function.
2013/09/04 23:05:57
garrigus
You can drag the sides or corners of the Frame in R-MIX to change its size.
 
If you have SONAR X2 Power!, check out pages 316 to 318 for step-by-step info on how to use R-MIX SONAR. http://www.garrigus.com/
 
Scott

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2013/09/05 05:54:49
Bristol_Jonesey
Which song is it Bob?
 
I transcribed a LOT of stuff back in the day (wit the help of my classically trained keyboard player)
2013/09/05 10:01:46
robert_e_bone
It is Night Meets Light, from the Dixie Dregs What If album.  The section in question is literally about 5 seconds of playing.
 
There are 2 sets of multi-tonal arpeggios at the end of the keyboard lead section, and that's the only part of the whole song that I don't have nailed.  (the rest of the song has a huge number of meter changes, but is otherwise easy).
 
Here is a YouTube link to the song: (edited - link removed)
 
Thanks,
 
Bob Bone 
2013/09/05 10:57:37
ston
Something like Celemony's Direct Note Access in Melodyne or even Riffstation might help perhaps..?  There are trial versions available for both I think.
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