I have a vocal track with multiple take lanes.  When I V-vocal a clip and then bounce to clip after editing, sometimes the v-vocal clip sits on top of that take lane;other times it sits "behind" the original clip, which shows muted.  It plays OK so it's really there, but visually it looks like there is only a muted clip.  I can make it show by adding a take lane, dragging it to the new take lane, deleting the original clip (which I don't like to do, just in case), and then dragging it back to the take lane.
 
Is there a reason the bounced V-Vocal clip sometimes is buried, when other times it's not?  (ie, is it something I'm doing, or is which clip sits on top just random?)  And is there some other way to bring the non-muted track to the "front" visually?

I have an instance now similar to what I just described, but the edited bounced-from-V-Vocal clip isn't surfacing at all.  It's playing audibly so I know it's there, and when I mute this particular take lane it disappears, so I know I'm in the correct take lane.  But all I see is a muted clip; when I drag that clip to a new take lane there is another muted clip behind it; then another, etc.  (I only went to a 6th "layer', I assume this will go on indefinitely.)
 
Anyone run into this?  Any suggestions?

It seems that it does that with no pattern, rhyme or reason. Generally speaking, once I'm happy with the altered version of a v-vocal clip, I delete the original to keep things tidy. Knowing nothing about how these things work, I would have thought it logical that if a muted clip occupies the same space as a non-muted clip that the muted clip would by default give way to the one that is actually going to play, but there's probably a reason why that would be silly. Or maybe not.

For what it's worth, I just unmuted the the above-mentioned clip; then when dragging it to an empty take lane the bounced V-Vocal clip was showing behind it.  I moved the V-Vocal clip and there was nothing else there.  So despite what looked like multiple layers of the same original muted clip, there was really only the single original copy and the invisible V-Vocal copy.  So this must be a program bug.
 
Paulo, I agree; but it seems I've had a few instances where I decided to go back and re-edit the bounced V-Vocal edit, and it did some funky things (like sounded like it was clipping even though it didn't appear to be), so I recently started keeping the original too, just in case.

Good idea to keep the original clip. Unfortunately, there is no way to set the z-order for overlapping clips, so sometimes the new clip will be visually obscured by the muted original. I used to delete the originals but regretted it once and from then on started using slip-edits to narrow the original clip to a small sliver that won't get in the way but is still there if I need to retrieve it.

Great idea.  That's my new solution, thanks!

I merely clone the vocal track before I start working on a V-Vocal version of it. That way, I still have an original copy of it. One can then archive the original to lighten up the cpu load if that is a concern, but can still go back to access it.

If the V-Vocal clip is sliced from a bigger clip, the original is still there. Just extend the end of the main clip the sliced clip came from and start over.
 
Steve

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Paulo, I agree; but it seems I've had a few instances where I decided to go back and re-edit the bounced V-Vocal edit, and it did some funky things (like sounded like it was clipping even though it didn't appear to be), so I recently started keeping the original too, just in case.

Yeah, I did say that I only deleted  the original once I was happy with the modified one, ie not likely to want to change it again. I used to just clone the original "take" track and work on the cloned one only, keeping the original track muted and hidden, just in case it was needed, but soon found that I never really had reason to go back to the original. I tend to only work on my own stuff, so if one go through VV doesn't sort out the issues with that section, then I woud just re-record that part. Usually works out better that way anyway. If I were working on something that wasn't easy to re-do, then yeah, I would always keep the original.