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2008/05/20 10:16:55
scottdb
Hi Everyone,

How do I record the in built metronome. I have set it up to go through a bus, and want it to stay in the song.

I heard there was a way of recording this?

Can anyone help please.

Thanks
Scott
2008/05/20 10:34:38
jamesg1213
Create your own metronome sound with a synth click track? Probably easier than trying to route an output to an input just to record Sonar's metronome.
2008/05/20 13:52:10
dantarbill

ORIGINAL: scottdb

Hi Everyone,

How do I record the in built metronome. I have set it up to go through a bus, and want it to stay in the song.

I heard there was a way of recording this?

Can anyone help please.

Thanks
Scott

The audio metronome won't render on mixdown (today), so you are left with a number of different hacks to get around it. What really makes the most sense is to just do a metronome track of your own. But, I had a thought...

I don't have a SONAR machine in front of me at the moment, so I can't try this out myself. The idea of the whole hardware loopback thing is to get the metronome audio into an audio track. You may be able to wrangle this internally (in SONAR 7) with something like this Rube Goldberg method (that grossly misuses the side-chain functionality)...

* Send the audio metronome to a MetronomeBus bus.
* Set up a MetronomeTrack audio track.
* Put a Sonitus compressor in the MetronomeTrack fx bin.
* In the MetronomeBus, insert a Send to the MetronomeTrack compressor's side-chain input and crank up the send level.
* In the MetronomeTrack's compressor, solo the side-chain input.
* Arm the MetronomeTrack for recording
* Rewind to the start of the project and hit record to capture the audio.

Please note that I have no idea whether this will really work...but the geek in me wants to try it out at the first available opportunity.
2008/05/20 14:06:38
brundlefly
I heard there was a way of recording this?


From you're last thread, I gather you are running an RME-Fireface 400. I'm guessing that like my E-mu's PatchMix software, RME's TotalMix applet will allow you to set up an all-digital loopback of an output to an input. Assign the audio metronome that output, and you can record it on a track assigned to the corresponding input. Check the RME's documentation if you're not clear on how to set up the loop. Or maybe someone with an RME can step and walk you through it.
2008/05/21 13:18:09
dantarbill
I tried the Rube Goldberg, side-chain gambit at home last night...

It works!!

You have to set the Sonitus:fx Compressor Output to "Sidech." and crank up the Gain, but will actually record the metronome audio.
2008/05/21 13:21:47
brundlefly
I tried the Rube Goldberg, side-chain gambit at home last night...

It works!!


Nice. I salute your ingenuity.
2008/05/21 17:54:03
kwgm
I've heard the metronome, and it's not very interesting. I think you're wasting your time, but if you like this sort of thing, I can whip you up a CD or two of this kind of music -- cheap!

2008/05/27 04:54:54
scottdb
thanks for the tips chaps.
i'll try the suggestions today.

might just make my own beat with a wooden spoon and a table....

cheers
s
2011/10/26 12:59:27
darkmatter2
I found this thread upon searching and gave it a go in sonar X1.  Everything seems correct, however when I arm the MetronomeTrack for recording, it automatically picks an input (in this case my M-Audio Firewire410) and upon recording, records silence.  How do you get it to record the sidechain??

Thanks!
2011/10/28 11:16:38
dantarbill
darkmatter2


I found this thread upon searching and gave it a go in sonar X1.  Everything seems correct, however when I arm the MetronomeTrack for recording, it automatically picks an input (in this case my M-Audio Firewire410) and upon recording, records silence.  How do you get it to record the sidechain??

Thanks!
I thought I was pretty sure I had made this work before.  It was probably in SONAR 7 when (I think) sidechaining was first introduced.  I've tried to replicate that recently...and haven't gotten there.  I tried in X1 and in 8.5 with no luck.  Now, I'm wondering how I did it.
 
When you record a track, you can monitor it with the FX, but (I think) it goes to disk pre-FX.  That would mean that anything added through the FX chain (the Metronome signal coming through the comp's sidechain) doesn't go to "tape".
 
(Was I doing a real time bounce to make this work?)
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