2016/09/24 19:14:28
Moshkito
jamesg1213
 
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I'm thinking a cover version of Van Der Graf Generator's 'Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers'.
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To my knowledge, that's one guy playing two of them things at the same time!
2016/09/24 20:17:12
Guitarhacker
When I collaborate I never send a bundle file even if the folks have Sonar. I always get a rough mix made and send them a simple wave or even just email an MP3 which they can load into their DAW and record their parts.
 
That has always worked well. I think Janet and I swapped bundle files until we realized the MP3 was so much smaller and easier.
 
The only thing you have to remember is to export the entire track from start to finish. It's OK to trim the end, but NOT the beginning.  Be sure the key and tempo are correct, and things are in tune..... then send the MP3. All the other party has to do is import it to their DAW, and record their part.
 
Once the other party records their parts, they too can send the rough drafts back in MP3 to see if they work ok. Once you decide a track is good to go, THEN you can send it as a WAVE through Drop Box.
2016/09/24 20:25:28
michaelhanson
We started out on Drop Box, but have switched to Google Drive. Google gives you a lot more storage space for free, than DB. We send bundle files as a Project Tracker, that has the time line completely charted out with chord call outs and arrangement notes.
2016/09/24 20:36:55
craigb
Another alternative for those who have their own domains and websites (like me) is to create a directory and use FTP (like the free FileZilla).
 
That said, if the files fit, DropBox (mine had to be upgraded for work), Google Drive, OneDrive, etc. tend to be easier to use.  I also agree with Herb; only send what you need to send.
2016/09/25 03:54:45
jamesg1213
Guitarhacker
When I collaborate I never send a bundle file even if the folks have Sonar. I always get a rough mix made and send them a simple wave or even just email an MP3 which they can load into their DAW and record their parts.
 
That has always worked well. I think Janet and I swapped bundle files until we realized the MP3 was so much smaller and easier.
 
The only thing you have to remember is to export the entire track from start to finish. It's OK to trim the end, but NOT the beginning.  Be sure the key and tempo are correct, and things are in tune..... then send the MP3. All the other party has to do is import it to their DAW, and record their part.
 
Once the other party records their parts, they too can send the rough drafts back in MP3 to see if they work ok. Once you decide a track is good to go, THEN you can send it as a WAVE through Drop Box.




Personally I would never use an MP3 to track to. There is a very slight difference in length to a .WAV. A .CWP (a project file, not a bundle) is very small, but can have all the markers and info you need. Pop a tracking WAV file of a mix into that, and it makes life very easy.
2016/09/25 08:53:20
Guitarhacker
Just an observation:
 
I have used MP3 and waves depending on what the other party needs or requests. I have never had any issues with timing or length using mp3 files.   I do prefer them because I and send them as an email attachment and don't need a file server until the project wave files are needing to be sent.
2016/09/25 09:12:20
BobF
I like dropbox and box both, but for collabs I prefer box.  Even the freebie version lets you set up folders and share them with collaborators so everybody uploads/downloads for themselves with trying to email stuff around - and you can have projects separated into folders, with different folks accessing each.
 
Just say no to bundle files.  I use MP3 for guide tracks and get full WAV for real tracks.
2016/09/25 10:34:05
57Gregy
Beagle
57Gregy
craigb
Wow, just look at all the helpfulness around here!  Isn't anyone else besides me curious what Greg's up to that requires two saxophonists? 




It's a song.
It doesn't require 2, but now that there's competition, I can pick the best one.
Really though, anything will be better than the MIDI/soft synth solo I currently have. It's soulless.


why not use both?  use one as the lead and have the other put some harmony sax in.  are they both the same type of sax? (i.e. alto, tenor, bari...)




Everything I know about sax I learned on the street.
I used the baritone sax sample from Proteus VX, but the alto sax I tried didn't sound much different.
Both persons asked for the project as they are educated musicians and presumably want the staff. A problem with that is I am not an educated musician and know very little about key signatures. Everything I do is in 'C'.
Thanks for all the advice!
2016/09/25 11:13:33
SteveStrummerUK
Greg, I regularly send massive .psd files and .zip files to 'myself' (from my home PC to my work PC and vice versa) to save carrying a memory stick around.
 
I find the quickest and easiest method is to use the free version of We Transfer.
 
The free service has a file transfer limit of 2GB against 20GB for a paid account, but 2GB should be more than enough for sending .wav files.
 
Edit to add: Unlike some 'free' services, you can send multiple files up to 2GB in a single transfer using We Transfer - the recipient gets a 'zip file so they will need to unzip them at their end.
2016/09/25 14:24:03
bapu
Guitarhacker
Just an observation:
 
I have used MP3 and waves depending on what the other party needs or requests. I have never had any issues with timing or length using mp3 files.   I do prefer them because I and send them as an email attachment and don't need a file server until the project wave files are needing to be sent.


Then you have never dropped an mp3 export and a wav export into a project and noticed that an mp3 has about 72 samples length in the beginning of the file.
 
Try it with a simple four 1/4 note snare hits in measure 2. Export measures 1 through 2 in both mp3 and wav. Import those into a SONAR project and you tell me if they line up. Even if the mp3 is a CBR export it will still not line up.
 
If the mp3 you are using is a non-CBR and you send a wav tracked to that it will not line up at the beginning (those pesky 72 samples) in the master project and then about a minute of so into the song you wav will really start drifting in time.
 
If the mp3 you are using is a CBR your wav will pretty much not drift but the 72 samples lead in is still true.
 
My son showed this to me and Danny Danzi and I proved this years ago and nothing has changed with mp3s. Experiment with mp3? Ya. Record final takes against them or export them to the master project, NEVER.
 
 
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