thank you sharke, I agree with you about m-audio, I've used them before with no problems, the last was sonar 6, I looked at the link, it still seems to be down. I gotta tell you this is making my life miserable, it's such a distraction. everything worked fine up to a few days ago. do you know of any tricks or methods to help me with this? I mean one could adjust things forever. again, I would appreciate any thoughts you may have.