2013/08/29 12:55:15
John
My headphones are bigger then any iPod. It would make for a strange combination. 
 
 
Keep in mind that Apple is the evil one. Thus I wouldn't have any reason to use headphones with the disgusting device. 
2013/08/29 12:58:37
michaelhanson
Yep, you can even use your studio phones.....you might have to take your protective case off, though.
2013/08/29 13:14:41
musicjohnnie
I have found that there are different mixes for regular cds and itunes. Mostly because of the platform being mixed for. Hence the difference in sound for iPod and such
2013/08/29 13:56:16
cclarry
bitflipper
Funny and sad but true: Apple's own spec sheet claims 20-20KHz frequency response!



Yes..but you must take NOTE of the fact that the don't give you +/- ratings....it would be like +7/-30

They do respond to those frequencies...they just don't do it FLAT or well...so, they are "TECHNICALLY" correct...
2013/08/29 14:42:42
konradh
Thanks, bitflipper.  That graph confirms my unscientific and subjective evaluation.
 
I don't want to optimize for earbuds.  I see it more like how people checked mixes in mono and on Auratones to make sure they translated to AM car radios.
 
I think a tweak to compensate for earbuds is reasonable if you are not screwing up the mix for other devices.
2013/08/29 16:28:25
bitflipper
The reason I posted that graph was to illustrate that it isn't really even possible to compensate for those earbuds' spectral deficiencies. You'd have to add 20-30dB to the low end, which would a) distort the buds something awful, and b) make it nearly-impossible to play on a broad-spectrum system. (Taking a little off the top probably wouldn't hurt, though; the better headphones of the world tend to be almost a mirror-image of that picture on the high end.)
 
There's a reason why people's eyes go wide and jaws drop the first time they put on a pair of high-end headphones. It's not because expensive cans sound great, but rather that they're simply hearing, for the first time, what the producers intended all along.
 
I think of it as an easter egg. A hidden surprise for anyone willing to go looking for it.
2013/08/29 17:01:27
Jeff Evans
There is something you could do. Forgetting the bottom end there is no reason why you could not patch something like a stereo 31 band graphic EQ in front of the earbud amp and reset the response of the earbuds back to what you remember your reference sounding like. It would be the closet thing to doing a measurement in the earbud space and trying to compensate for that.
 
But then if you are going to check and use earbuds you can also check and use a decent set of headphones. Earbuds are OK for checking things like stereo separation being a little too wide and perhaps bringing that in a little.
 
John there was no magic sauce. All I did with the bottom end was to roll a little more around 40 Hz or so. I created a steeper HPF and just set it around the point where there was not much subby stuff going on down there. Stopped the earbuds from rattling was the main aim of that. I also brought the stereo image in a tad making it less total left right in the earbuds. Made that a bit more comfortable for the listener. I was even thinking of going back to the mix and doing a slightly different mix for the earbuds too but then I realised that would have been far too much work.
2013/08/30 07:28:38
Guitarhacker
I like the EP-630 ear buds.
 
I have basic black but they are now available in 5 different colors.  AND..... more than that.... they boast a frequency range from 6hz to 32khz...... yup... you read that right.... Up in the dog whistle range all the way down to seismic activity range. Certainly the color would affect that range a bit don't ya think?  (sarcasm in ten did)
 
Seriously ......  these are noise reducing with fairly comfortable rubber ear cups .... they come with 3 different sized pairs of cups so you can choose the right size for you. I have found that I can comfortably wear these almost all day while driving or working without discomfort. I will sometimes wear them while cutting the grass with no music playing rather than grabbing the foam ear plugs I would normally use. 
 
In the studio, I do not use them for mixing or mastering. But I have used them a time or two to track a vocal. I think they shine in this role since the mic bleed from them is non-existant compared to normal headphones.
 
http://www.handspreca.com/creative-labs-ep-630a-noise-isolating-earphones.html  I buy them from Amazon and normally can get them in the $15/pair price range. I normally buy 3 to 5 sets at a time since when I work and use them they tend to have a shorter life than if I took care of them and only used them in leisure time pursuits.
 
 
2013/08/30 08:32:33
Tom Riggs
I am not a master mixer by any means but the way I approach it is I make sure the bass and the kick have some content at higher frequencies.
 
In the case of the kick I try to pick a kick and eq it so I can hear the smack of the beater against the head not just the boomy part. That way if the playback system lacks low end the kick is still there. 
 
I take a similar approach to the bass so that the overtones of the fundamental help out when the bottom is lacking. Just make sure there is room in the mids for the vocals and other instruments.
 
Usually sweeping an eq with the kick or the bass soloed helps to find the upper frequencies that can be helpful.
 
I also check my mixes on several phones and ear buds as well as the studio monitors and stereo and regular pc speakers. 
 
 
2013/08/30 08:59:43
Grem
musicjohnnie
I have found that there are different mixes for regular cds and itunes. Mostly because of the platform being mixed for. Hence the difference in sound for iPod and such


bitflipper
The reason I posted that graph was to illustrate that it isn't really even possible to compensate for those earbuds' spectral deficiencies.




This sums it up.
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