• SONAR
  • Active Controller Technology (ACT) The Saga Continues
2008/04/27 15:48:22
Joy D
I would like to use real faders for automating my tracks in Sonar.

I have a couple of Yamaha mixing boards (O1V96 and O1V) and it would be great if I could use the faders of the O1V96 to do real time automation. I am only interested in volume fader automation.

I was able to get the ACT MIDI Controller Plug-in to automate 8 of my first layer of 16 channels on my board but for the life of me I cannot get the second 8 in bank 2 to work separately.

I have also tried using the Cakewalk Generic Controller Plug-in and can get 16 individual tracks to operate individually but when I move the faders on the 01V96, Sonar’s faders go spastic and convulse up and down hundreds of times as I raise the fader over the course and duration of a one 100-mm fader rise. I have tried hundreds of combinations of parameter and setup configurations to no avail.

I am and have been using Sonar 6.0.1 PE.

I have tried upgrading to 6.2 and 6.2.1 over 5 times in the course of the last 14 months and every time I upgrade it totally breaks Sonar's GUI, loses plug-ins and settings, and I get no audio to play period.

If there are any Active Controller Technology Operators who are Really Smart "ACTORS" familiar with this play out there who might point me in the right direction it would be most appreciated.
2008/04/28 00:43:27
DayDrumFour
Joy

Great thread title. Welcome.

Unfortunately, there are quite a few of us lurking around these boards for some helpful ACT info.

My suggestion to you is delete all the controller surfaces and just use midi-learn.

But that's just me. And until I figure out ACT a little better, "midi-learn" is my choice.


I have a question for you about those digital mixers....
I know the faders can transmit midi controller info, but can the buttons above each fader transmit as well?
The idea being midi-learned to mute or solo for that track on-screen. Hope I said that right.
I'll be in the market for a super-mixer like those soon.
2008/04/28 01:19:37
LionSound
Hi Joy,

Unfortunately ACT does not support motorized faders, so it probably won't work very well if at all with the 01V96.

If it is possible try to configure the 01V96 into Mackie Control emilation mode and then use it with the Mckie Control plugin in Sonar. Everything should work well then.
2008/04/28 01:57:28
mudgel
In the upgrade from SPE 6 to 6.2 are you aware that the scheme where SONAR files are kept was changed because of VISTA compatability which was introduced during that update. Perhaps that's why your plugins and info seems like it gone. Check it out. Maybe of some help to you.
2008/04/28 02:01:52
Codevyper
+1 on the Mackie Control mode. That's what I run with my 01x and I'm able to control all the faders I want. Also when I switch between banks the faders move to match the bank I'm dealing with.
2008/04/28 07:26:45
Mr. Ease
I have been using the control surface for the 01V by Chris Boucher for years now and it works well. You will get full bi-directional use and transport controls as well. It does not use ACT though but as already stated, although you can get ACT to work it is only unidirectional so is of less use than the specific driver Chris developed.

You can find Chris' driver here. It is worth giving it a try. It won't work with your 01V96 though.

+1 on Mudgel's advice regarding the update to 6.2. This is very likely to be where things are going wrong.
2008/04/28 07:30:37
Mr. Ease

ORIGINAL: LionSound

Unfortunately ACT does not support motorized faders, so it probably won't work very well if at all with the 01V96.


Strictly speaking ACT does support bi-directional BUT it is not available with the generic surface. You need a specific driver to support it. In fact this was also true BEFORE ACT.
2008/04/28 14:37:33
Joy D

ORIGINAL: DayDrumFour

Joy

Great thread title. Welcome.

Unfortunately, there are quite a few of us lurking around these boards for some helpful ACT info.

My suggestion to you is delete all the controller surfaces and just use midi-learn.

But that's just me. And until I figure out ACT a little better, "midi-learn" is my choice.


I have a question for you about those digital mixers....
I know the faders can transmit midi controller info, but can the buttons above each fader transmit as well?
The idea being midi-learned to mute or solo for that track on-screen. Hope I said that right.
I'll be in the market for a super-mixer like those soon.


My suggestion to you is delete all the controller surfaces and just use midi-learn.

How can you use midi learn without a controller surface?

but can the buttons above each fader transmit as well?

Doubtful, but I will try to let you know once I get all faders working.

Thanks!
2008/04/28 15:04:30
Joy D

ORIGINAL: LionSound

Hi Joy,

Unfortunately ACT does not support motorized faders, so it probably won't work very well if at all with the 01V96.

If it is possible try to configure the 01V96 into Mackie Control emilation mode and then use it with the Mckie Control plugin in Sonar. Everything should work well then.


Unfortunately ACT does not support motorized faders, so it probably won't work very well if at all with the 01V96.


I can get 8 faders and 8 pans working perfectly using the ACT MIDI Controller Plug-in.
I can also get the Cakewalk Generic Controller Plug-in to move 16 faders but not correctly.

If it is possible try to configure the 01V96 into Mackie Control emilation mode and then use it with the Mckie Control plugin in Sonar.


I am not aware of any way to configure the 01V96 into a Mackie Control emulation mode. I looked at multiple Mackie Control presets in Sonar and I don't see where or how I would enable volume control for the O1V96 faders.

Thanks!




2008/04/28 15:11:41
Joy D

ORIGINAL: mudgel

In the upgrade from SPE 6 to 6.2 are you aware that the scheme where SONAR files are kept was changed because of VISTA compatability which was introduced during that update. Perhaps that's why your plugins and info seems like it gone. Check it out. Maybe of some help to you.


I was aware of that but I never imagined that an upgrade patch would require me to figure out where I need to move my files.
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