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  • Active Controller Technology (ACT) The Saga Continues (p.2)
2008/04/28 15:15:59
Joy D

ORIGINAL: Codevyper

+1 on the Mackie Control mode. That's what I run with my 01x and I'm able to control all the faders I want. Also when I switch between banks the faders move to match the bank I'm dealing with.


I looked at multiple Mackie Control presets in Sonar and I don't see where or how I would enable volume control for the O1V96 faders. Please enlighten me.
2008/04/28 15:27:09
Joy D

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ease

I have been using the control surface for the 01V by Chris Boucher for years now and it works well. You will get full bi-directional use and transport controls as well. It does not use ACT though but as already stated, although you can get ACT to work it is only unidirectional so is of less use than the specific driver Chris developed.

You can find Chris' driver here. It is worth giving it a try. It won't work with your 01V96 though.

+1 on Mudgel's advice regarding the update to 6.2. This is very likely to be where things are going wrong.


I used Chris Boucher's control surface years ago for my 01V. My 01V96 comes with Studio Manager which is the bomb in a great way and automates all aspects of my board except preamp volume control. I desperately need to automate Sonar's console view faders with the 01V96's faders and I am so close. Very important for me at mix time.
2008/04/28 18:37:08
LionSound

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ease


ORIGINAL: LionSound

Unfortunately ACT does not support motorized faders, so it probably won't work very well if at all with the 01V96.


Strictly speaking ACT does support bi-directional BUT it is not available with the generic surface. You need a specific driver to support it. In fact this was also true BEFORE ACT.


From what Cakewalk has told me ACT does not support bi-directionality aka motorized faders. Trying to use the 01v96's motorized faders with ACT simply will not work correctly.

Joy,

Try this Mackie Control Emulator software ... http://www.wisemix.com/ ... it is supposed to let Sonar and other apps see any control surface as an MCU, so this might do the trick.
2008/04/28 22:48:10
Joy D
From what Cakewalk has told me ACT does not support bi-directionality aka motorized faders. Trying to use the 01v96's motorized faders with ACT simply will not work correctly.


I am only interested in single directionality. I want to use the faders of the 01V96 to control Sonar's faders for mixdown. I can do this with 8 faders right now and it works perfectly. I need at least 8 more faders for a total of 16 to make it work for me.

Try this Mackie Control Emulator software ... http://www.wisemix.com/ ... it is supposed to let Sonar and other apps see any control surface as an MCU, so this might do the trick.


I checked out the software at the wisemix.com site but ideally would like to avoid using another piece of software if at all possible since I've already purchased a tool that is supposed to do the job.

Thanks!

2008/04/29 00:04:41
LionSound
Oh sorry I thought the 01V faders were motorized and thus required some sort of bi-directional functionality on the other end to work OK. ACT can switch banks.

Here's how you might be able to do what you want to do in ACT ...

- Open the ACT MIDI Controller page
- Notice that each row (sliders, knobs, and buttons) has four banks which are switchable via the Bank tab next to each row
- Now select the Options tab
- Locate the Buttons row and notice the third tab should be defaulted to Transport | Rewind
- Click that tab and scroll all the way to the top
- Five or six selections from the top are Previous Track Bank and Next Track Bank
- Assign these two functions to which ever buttons on the ACT page you want
- Then use ACT learn to learn these buttons to two real buttons on your 01v
- now ACT learn said banks from 01v to the ACT page virtual banks

Now you should be able to scroll banks easily via the assigned buttons on your 01v.

2008/04/29 02:04:12
DayDrumFour
How can you use midi learn without a controller surface?


It's the easiest option.

If the control surface help from others here doesn't work out for you, try the old school way.

Put mouse cursor on Sonar fader, right click and select "remote control", click "learn" and move Yamaha fader. Click ok.

Repeat for as many faders as you want.
2008/04/29 05:32:23
Mr. Ease
ORIGINAL: LionSound


ORIGINAL: Mr. Ease


ORIGINAL: LionSound

Unfortunately ACT does not support motorized faders, so it probably won't work very well if at all with the 01V96.


Strictly speaking ACT does support bi-directional BUT it is not available with the generic surface. You need a specific driver to support it. In fact this was also true BEFORE ACT.


From what Cakewalk has told me ACT does not support bi-directionality aka motorized faders. Trying to use the 01v96's motorized faders with ACT simply will not work correctly.

Joy,

Try this Mackie Control Emulator software ... http://www.wisemix.com/ ... it is supposed to let Sonar and other apps see any control surface as an MCU, so this might do the trick.


It is the generic control surface that does not support bi-directional comms. Specific drivers CAN use bi-directional comms. using the details given in the SDK. If someone was brave enough to write drivers for the 01V96 it could be bi-directional much as the 01V driver by Chris Boucher or indeed the MCU.

However the OP has now said he doesn't need it!
2008/04/29 14:37:17
Joy D

ORIGINAL: LionSound

Oh sorry I thought the 01V faders were motorized and thus required some sort of bi-directional functionality on the other end to work OK. ACT can switch banks.

Here's how you might be able to do what you want to do in ACT ...

- Open the ACT MIDI Controller page
- Notice that each row (sliders, knobs, and buttons) has four banks which are switchable via the Bank tab next to each row
- Now select the Options tab
- Locate the Buttons row and notice the third tab should be defaulted to Transport | Rewind
- Click that tab and scroll all the way to the top
- Five or six selections from the top are Previous Track Bank and Next Track Bank
- Assign these two functions to which ever buttons on the ACT page you want
- Then use ACT learn to learn these buttons to two real buttons on your 01v
- now ACT learn said banks from 01v to the ACT page virtual banks

Now you should be able to scroll banks easily via the assigned buttons on your 01v.





I appreciate your time and help but I am unable to assign buttons on this board.
I would also prefer not to go through banks or layers when doing a mixdown. I need a minimum of 16 faders to be accessible at one time.

Again thanks, Joy
2008/04/29 14:49:51
Joy D

ORIGINAL: DayDrumFour

How can you use midi learn without a controller surface?


It's the easiest option.

If the control surface help from others here doesn't work out for you, try the old school way.

Put mouse cursor on Sonar fader, right click and select "remote control", click "learn" and move Yamaha fader. Click ok.

Repeat for as many faders as you want.


Great suggestion but I get the same problem as when I use the Cakewalk Generic Surfaces Plug-in. Sonar’s faders go spastic and convulse up and down hundreds of times as I raise the fader over the course and duration of a one 100-mm fader rise.

This doesn't happen with the ACT Midi Controller Plug-in but I can only use eight of the 16 faders I need in this scenario.
2008/04/29 15:06:08
Joy D

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ease

ORIGINAL: LionSound


ORIGINAL: Mr. Ease


ORIGINAL: LionSound

Unfortunately ACT does not support motorized faders, so it probably won't work very well if at all with the 01V96.


Strictly speaking ACT does support bi-directional BUT it is not available with the generic surface. You need a specific driver to support it. In fact this was also true BEFORE ACT.


From what Cakewalk has told me ACT does not support bi-directionality aka motorized faders. Trying to use the 01v96's motorized faders with ACT simply will not work correctly.

Joy,

Try this Mackie Control Emulator software ... http://www.wisemix.com/ ... it is supposed to let Sonar and other apps see any control surface as an MCU, so this might do the trick.


It is the generic control surface that does not support bi-directional comms. Specific drivers CAN use bi-directional comms. using the details given in the SDK. If someone was brave enough to write drivers for the 01V96 it could be bi-directional much as the 01V driver by Chris Boucher or indeed the MCU.

However the OP has now said he doesn't need it!


However the OP has now said he doesn't need it!


I (She) never brought up bi-directionality but appreciate your input.
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