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2013/08/21 14:23:55
lawp
Yes
2013/08/21 14:28:53
Brando
mike_mccue
....these people you two are pointing fingers at and excusing of being less competent than your own grandiose selves can run the very same projects on Reaper and Studio One all day long with out a hiccup.
.......
The finger pointing is not appreciated... and make no mistake, I just think it's in poor taste...
 ......
I am simply insulted that some of you guys think that insulting other people is a demonstration of your friendly and helpful nature.
 
Well done.
 
best regards,
mike



Your generalization above is misplaced in my opinion. Bob has been very helpful to a large number of users in resolving their problems while using SONAR. The reference as "grandiose" is ridiculous when referring to such a humble and helpful person who I am happy is part of the SONAR community. I encourage you to reread his post and consider where he exhibited any of the characteristics you ascribe to him.
You of course are entitled to your own opinions about SONAR, as is Bob or anyone else is.
 
 
2013/08/21 14:51:51
spacey
wormser
Just sayin'...
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=388711&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=135
 
 




So after what's been going on here for almost a year what you're "just sayin'" is like a fart in a tornado.
2013/08/21 14:57:48
The Maillard Reaction
Hi Brando,
 
Yours was a very thoughtful and well spoken post.
 
 I'm going to be real clear.
 
 You, me and Bob are bystanders, yet one of us expects to be satisfied with a full and detailed explanation or he describes a complaint as "baseless".
 
Hi Bob,
 I feel that statements like that, and previous statements where by you have demanded that people give this forum first chance at fixing a problem before any complaining seems credible requires a hubris that I find distasteful.
 
 Determining that complaints that haven't been described to your complete satisfaction are "baseless" is an example of a hubris that I find surprising coming from a guy that seems genuinely intent on helping. No one owes you any explanation and the suggestion that they do is something-centric to a fault.
 
 I got lots of faults (that's for my friend jb101 to quote and run with) but kicking people when they are down just because they won't grab my hand for a lift up isn't one of them. 
 
 It's pretty simple.
 
 The complicated part is that I do agree that you are very helpful and sincerely genuine. I just wish I didn't have to see you insult people while you were at it.
 
 Stay calm.
 X3 will be arriving soon.
 
 
 all the best,
mike
 
 
2013/08/21 14:59:25
brconflict
Personally, I'm critical of software I like. If I really think it has potential to be 500% more winning, I get critical, and let everyone know what I think, including the company. I look for potential, and I'm usually dissatisfied with what I get. 
Cakewalk has an incredible opportunity to either give us a really amazing new DAW in X3, or Y1, or Phantom1, or whatever, in a way that re-invents how we work, or to give is a really solid, polished, smooth, attractive, and reliable X3 in a way it has no boundaries of how it can address or fix issues in the future long-term, or how it can add new features without breaking things in the process.
 
I hope they had this in store when it was decided to either not release X2b or to keep it in the boiler for a bit longer. I imagine Cakewalk is fully aware of what's being said on KVR and Gearslutz etc. about Sonar, but there's no doubt they really want to silence those critics for a long time! My fingers are crossed that both of these will happen, even though the latter is uber-important to me.
 
Besides, Sonar is cheap when you break it down feature-by-feature...
2013/08/21 15:09:04
Brando
mike_mccue
......
 I'm going to be real clear.
 .....

 
That would have been one of those rare occasions..... but ..... in the end you couldn't pull it off.
Somebody trying to be helpful on a user forum where people are looking for help is hubris in your book?
Jeez - my suggestion is just not read it. Which I often find myself doing with many of your posts - until you start to slog at people who I think are doing a service to the SONAR community.
And here we are again...
 
BEST REGARDS,
 
 
2013/08/21 15:17:34
The Maillard Reaction
I'm just a bystander.
 
Every now and then I say what's on my mind and I take my lumps cause that's how that works.
 
best regards,
mike
2013/08/21 15:26:31
Grumbleweed_
If you remove two of the "contributers" to that thread then it isn't much if a thread at all. One of them I recognise from the Propellerhead Forum and I would say he was one of the most reviled people on there.
I find it funny that he was too "sick" to get his list of Sonar bugs (from upstairs!) to allow someone to test them many days ago and never returned to that thread.
People are funny.

Grum.
2013/08/21 16:35:22
Rski
Yup.....Lots of folks.....just love to point the blame on our good ole Cakewalk.....Its tricky to pinpoint the faults that so many encounter, I had my share of quips too.....but careful thinking will usually sort that out
 
Yes colors are limited to wave files, but that's not going to encourage me to snark about how my universe has collapsed into a black hole.
The X series interface sky light is a step in the right direction as far as workflow is concern, so was the first Sonar series that went from Sonar 1 to Sonar 8.3 Sonar 1 with tabs was a welcome from those earlier spread sheet in the versions.
 
Soft synths have being the apple of my eye along with plug ins.... they improve like evrything else.....Its all about making music.....and that the bottom line
2013/08/21 16:50:07
meh
CJaysMusic
If you cant 'Beat Em', 'Bash Em'


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