As another long time Whiner about SV, I'll throw my two cents in.  I had to break down and buy Sibelius several years ago.  I find it to be a cumbersome program that often does things counter-intuitively,  Based on a Hope and a Dream, i just ordered the Elite package with Notion3 bundled.  I liked what I saw on their website, so here's another 100 bucks down the drain, or perhaps a solution.

I'm now committed to the fact that Cakewalk will NEVER improve Staff View.  I'm not going to get in a debate about whether SPE should or shouldn't have notation, I'm just going to echo what's been said all over the forum - In it's present condition, It's laughable and they should remove it for that reason alone - It's ancient code, and it shows it.

My biggest disappointment has been the silence of Cakewalk over the years on this issue.  Just tell us you don't want to deal with it!  I find the silence completely out of character with the excellent response they give to every other feature of the software.  I suppose Staff View resembles the mail man too much for CW to love it.

I'll start a thread once Notion3 is delivered and I get it re-wired.

Ed

fastelder


As another long time Whiner about SV, I'll throw my two cents in.  I had to break down and buy Sibelius several years ago.  I find it to be a cumbersome program that often does things counter-intuitively,  Based on a Hope and a Dream, i just ordered the Elite package with Notion3 bundled.  I liked what I saw on their website, so here's another 100 bucks down the drain, or perhaps a solution.

I'm now committed to the fact that Cakewalk will NEVER improve Staff View.  I'm not going to get in a debate about whether SPE should or shouldn't have notation, I'm just going to echo what's been said all over the forum - In it's present condition, It's laughable and they should remove it for that reason alone - It's ancient code, and it shows it.

My biggest disappointment has been the silence of Cakewalk over the years on this issue.  Just tell us you don't want to deal with it!  I find the silence completely out of character with the excellent response they give to every other feature of the software.  I suppose Staff View resembles the mail man too much for CW to love it.

I'll start a thread once Notion3 is delivered and I get it re-wired.

Ed

Perhaps it's laughable, but I prefer that it remain in Sonar - at least for editing.  It's not hurting anyone by its presence, or eating up any CPU cycles, or causing any bloat.  Just pretend it isn't there if you don't like it - for me, it's better than nothing at all.  

Perhaps it's laughable, but I prefer that it remain in Sonar - at least for editing. It's not hurting anyone by its presence, or eating up any CPU cycles, or causing any bloat. Just pretend it isn't there if you don't like it - for me, it's better than nothing at all.

 
Well, I agree also, because I like the little dots as opposed to no dots.  I'm just making the point that by ignoring it, it does more harm than good to the product.  They shouldn't even list it as a feature.  I can only imagine how I would feel coming from another product and checking this out thinking "Oh good, they have notation also" and then seeing how poorly it stacks up.

fastelder

Perhaps it's laughable, but I prefer that it remain in Sonar - at least for editing. It's not hurting anyone by its presence, or eating up any CPU cycles, or causing any bloat. Just pretend it isn't there if you don't like it - for me, it's better than nothing at all.

 
Well, I agree also, because I like the little dots as opposed to no dots.  I'm just making the point that by ignoring it, it does more harm than good to the product.  They shouldn't even list it as a feature.  I can only imagine how I would feel coming from another product and checking this out thinking "Oh good, they have notation also" and then seeing how poorly it stacks up.

I hear ya.  We can only hope that they are in secret negotiations to buy Notion and integrate it into Sonar.  Maybe the Notion 3 bundle is sort of a "getting to know you" type of thing.  And those who buy the bundle will get a discount on Sonar 9.  Wait, was I dreaming that or did I type it out loud?

Although originally I used guitar pro for notation.. I switched to sonar for a while as I thought it would be quicker. In some ways it is as I it is easier with articulations etc in sonar and also octaves (as with a lot of my virtual instruments you have to write them an octave higher in an notation program). Also, writing them in sonar has made it easier to test the sounds etc..
 
However, I have noticed it to be very basic. I have not been able to use certain effects such as grace notes, ghost notes, staccato, dead notes etc.. Has anybody else noticed this? When I write a dead note or staccato in guitar pro and open it in sonar, it just turns out as like a rest. Of course some patches have articulations for staccato etc, but not all.