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2013/08/09 13:13:00
HELLYA
Hi every one
 
Today i might have realized something. I had one midi track for my drum (Ez drummer) and another midi track for my bass (Trillian) the two split in many sections (i usually split the midi drum track so i could build my midi bass to follow the drum parts fills, groove etc...). To make a story short, when saving it was taking more time than other project that are practically the same (vst, track etc...). As soon as i regroup the midi track (bounce to clip) it then reduce the saving time quite a lot. Question; Do you thing that having a midi track split in multiple part could have an'effect on my laptop performances?
 
Thanks
2013/08/09 13:32:06
mmorgan
My guess would be that the separate MIDI tracks are stored as such where as a combo would be stored as one MIDI track. So in a separate scenario it would take mulitple passes for each track whereas the other would be a single pass.
 
That said I don't think it would take that much longer unless there were other contributing factors.
 
Just my 2cents though.
 
Regards,
2013/08/09 13:35:01
konradh
Do you mean that instead of a single drum MIDI track, you have one MIDI track for kick, one for snare, etc?
 
I almost always do that and have never noticed a difference.  MIDI data is very small and should save almost instantly.  It is usually either audio files or patches from large sample libraries that take a lot of save time.
 
It will be interesting if you discover something quirkly about Sonar that makes this operation slower.
2013/08/09 13:54:49
mmorgan
I'm curious what the advantages are of a single MIDI track for each piece of a drum kit. Would it be having individual envelopes for each piece as opposed to one set of envelopes for the entire kit?
 
Very curious about this, any hints would be welcome.
 
Regards,
 
2013/08/09 14:16:22
HELLYA
All drum instruments (snare, cymbals etc...) are on the same midi track. The midi track is divided (split; see split tool). Another thing; While working in the piano roll view (moving notes etc...) things started to get so slow it was a nightmare. It was hard moving let's say a couple of notes one quarter note away from there original place. As soon as i regroup the drum midi track together (bounce to clip) everything was fine. So i was wondering...since my laptop is not that super fast machine maybe little details like that could make a difference on my laptop performances?
2013/08/09 15:45:22
stevec
Are these regular MIDI clips or Step Sequence clips?
 
2013/08/09 16:20:39
HELLYA
Are these regular MIDI clips or Step Sequence clips? What's the diference?
2013/08/09 17:44:38
John
MIDI is in the low kilobyte size at best and should not take up space whether split by note into separate tracks or not. If you guys had a GM hardware sound module you would notice no CPU activity when playing back a large GM file. Large meaning 70 KB 16 tracks or channels. 
2013/08/09 20:23:07
stevec
HELLYA
Are these regular MIDI clips or Step Sequence clips? What's the diference?




A "regular" MIDI clip is either created in the Piano Roll View or played in via a MIDI controller.   By default these MIDI clips are independent of each other.  A Step Sequencer clip is generated in the Step Sequencer, and all copies are linked to each other by default.   I'm just wondering whether a SS clip split into multiple pieces is more resource intensive, since as John mentioned regular MIDI clips tend to be very small.   I've never split SS clips myself...
 
2013/08/10 05:19:58
HELLYA
Well it's a regular midi clip (bass/Trillian and drum track/EZ drummer) and as soon as i make a one big midi clip (bounce to clip) with my track, it's obvious that it tooks less time to save the project...
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